Ernst Mayr
Alexander Agazziz Professor of Zoology, Emeritus
Harvard University

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5 FEBRUARY 15TH, 1997 1:30 P.M.

6 MS. BROWNLEE: GOOD AFTERNOON. WELCOME BACK

7 AFTER A VERY DELIGHTFUL LUNCHEON AND I HOPE SOME

8 VERY INTERESTING AND ENGAGING DISCUSSION. AND I

9 THINK MOST OF THE PEOPLE HAVE COME ON OVER NOW.

10 I RATHER DOUBT THAT ANYONE IN THIS ROOM WOULD

11 DISAGREE WITH THE PRECEPT THAT LIBERAL EDUCATION

12 FOR TODAY'S STUDENTS SHOULD INCLUDE SERIOUS

13 ATTENTION TO THE SCIENCES, BUT THE REAL ENGAGEMENT

14 OF NONSCIENCE MAJORS IN THAT ASPECT OF THEIR

15 EDUCATION CONTINUES TO BE A PROBLEM. LET'S FACE

16 IT. YET AGAIN THERE IS A LEVEL OF ALIENATION OF

17 NONSCIENCE STUDENTS TO SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY

18 STUDIES THAT FAR EXCEEDS THE DISLIKE OF NONMAJOR

19 STUDIES BY ANY OTHER GROUP. AND YOU MAY WANT TO

20 CHALLENGE THAT, BUT I REALLY THINK THAT CONTINUES

21 TO BE SO.

22 ONCE AGAIN, ON A NATIONAL LEVEL AS WELL AS ON

23 INDIVIDUAL CAMPUSES, WE MUST BEND OUR MINDS TO

24 UNDERSTANDING THE ROOTS OF SUCH DISCONTENT AND WITH

25 OUR STUDENTS SEEK NEW WAYS TO ADDRESS IT.



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1 WHAT IS THE NATURE OF YOUNG PEOPLE'S FEAR OF

2 SCIENCE? WE HAVE AT THIS COLLOQUY EMPHASIZED

3 SERVICE AND EXPERIENTIAL LEARNING AS EFFECTIVE

4 EDUCATION, YET GENERAL SCIENCE STUDENTS THEMSELVES

5 SEEM MOST TO DREAD LABORATORY EXPERIENCES.

6 DESPITE LOU SHULMAN'S ASSESSMENT THAT THE

7 PROBLEM IS THEY HAVE NO TIME FOR REFLECTION. I

8 THINK -- THAT I THINK IS TRUE, BUT I THINK THERE'S

9 MUCH MORE TO THAT. PERHAPS, INDEED, THE MEDIEVAL

10 CIVILIZATION'S VAST FEARS OF A HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT

11 LINGER ON TO THIS DAY AND THAT THE SUBCONSCIOUSNESS

12 OF OUR GENERATION THAT, IN FACT, OUR LIVED-IN WORLD

13 IS A FEARSOME PLACE AND THE LESS KNOWN THE BETTER,

14 SORT OF AN OSTRICH IN THE SAND.

15 IT IS MORE MARKEDLY IN SCIENTIFIC STUDIES WELL

16 TAUGHT THAT WE CAN BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND HOW VAST, IN

17 FACT, IS OUR IGNORANCE, BUT HOW GREAT IS THE WONDER

18 OF THE WORLD TO BE DISCOVERED. HUMILITY IS NOT A

19 QUALITY WE PRIZE IN AMERICAN LIFE, YET IT IS A

20 QUALITY IN A TRULY LIBERALLY EDUCATED SCIENTIST AND

21 PERSON MUCH TO BE ADMIRED. FROM SUCH PERSONS COME

22 GREAT DISCOVERIES AND GREAT CONTRIBUTIONS OFTEN TO

23 MANY ASPECTS OF LIFE.

24 WE ARE PRIVILEGED TO HAVE WITH US HERE TODAY

25 TWO VERY DIFFERENT, SIGNIFICANT SPEAKERS. THEY



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1 WILL HELP US PONDER THE QUESTION ANEW, WHAT ARE THE

2 UNDERSTANDINGS OF BIOLOGY, WHAT ARE THE

3 UNDERSTANDINGS OF THE VERY NEW FIELD OF INFORMATION

4 TECHNOLOGIES THAT WE SHOULD MAKE ACCESSIBLE TO ALL

5 STUDENTS? AND IN WHAT WAYS MAY WE STRIVE TO

6 CONNECT STUDIES OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY FIRMLY IN

7 THE WEB OF AN EFFECTIVE LIBERAL EDUCATION?

8 DR. ERNST MAYR HAS CARRIED THE DISTINGUISHED

9 TITLE OF ALEXANDER AGASSIZ PROFESSOR OF ZOOLOGY,

10 EMERITUS, AT HARVARD UNIVERSITY FOR 21 YEARS,

11 EMERITUS. HIS IS AN INTENSELY PRODUCTIVE LIFE.

12 DURING ITS COURSE HE'S BEEN ENGAGED IN ORNITHOLOGY,

13 SYSTEMATICS, ZOO GEOGRAPHY, EVOLUTION AND THE

14 HISTORY AND PHILOSOPHY OF BIOLOGY.

15 HE HAS TRAVELED THE GLOBE SINCE HIS EDUCATION

16 AT THE UNIVERSITIES OF GRIVESFELDT (sic) AND

17 BERLIN, THROUGH EXPEDITIONS IN DUTCH NEW GUINEA AND

18 THE SOLOMON ISLANDS HE HAS AUTHORED AND CO-AUTHORED

19 16 BOOKS, EDITED EIGHT OTHERS AND AUTHORITY OVER

20 600 JOURNAL ARTICLES. HIS VERY LATEST BOOK WAS

21 PUBLISHED THIS MONTH AND IS ENTITLED THIS IS

22 BIOLOGY, THE SCIENCE OF THE LIVING WORLD.

23 HE TOLD ME HE HAD TAKEN 14 YEARS TO WRITE THIS

24 MAGNUM OPUS. SURELY, I SAID TO HIM, YOU HAVE BEEN

25 WORKING ON IT ALL YOUR LIFE, TO WHICH HE SMILINGLY



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1 AGREED. DR. ERNST MAYR.

2 (APPLAUSE)

3 PROFESSOR MAYR: IF YOU DON'T MIND, BEING AN

4 OLD MAN, I'M PRESENTING SITTING DOWN.

5 THE TOPIC THAT WAS ASSIGNED TO ME WAS BIOLOGY,

6 PRAGMATISM AND LIBERAL EDUCATION. LET ME START

7 WITH THE LAST AND GRADUALLY WORK ON TO BIOLOGY.

8 LIBERAL EDUCATION WE HAVE HEARD IN THE LAST TWO

9 DAYS, HOW MUCH IT IS CHANGING, HOW MUCH IT HAS

10 CHANGED. AND IF WE GO BACK 100 YEARS IT WAS

11 STRAIGHT CLASSICS. THIS HAS BECOME EXTINCT IN THE

12 UNITED STATES AND I'M SURE THERE ISN'T A SINGLE

13 PERSON IN THIS AUDIENCE WHO HAS NOT (inaudible)

14 EDUCATION WITH ONE EXCEPTION, AND THAT'S MYSELF.

15 I'M A RELIC OF THE PAST WHERE CLASSICS WAS IN AND

16 EVERYTHING OR, AS THE PALEONTOLOGIST WOULD SAY, I'M

17 A LIVING FOSSIL OF THIS CLASSIC EDUCATION.

18 FROM THE YEARS 1914 TO 1923, I HAD NINE YEARS

19 OF LATIN, NINE YEARS OF GERMAN AND MATHEMATICS,

20 SEVEN YEARS OF GREEK AND SEVEN YEARS OF HISTORY. I

21 HAD FOUR YEARS OF FRENCH AND ONE OR TWO YEARS OF

22 LIFE (inaudible) SCIENCES, NO ENGLISH.

23 WELL, IN THE MEANTIME ALL THIS HAS CHANGED AND

24 THE QUESTION IS NOW THAT 75 YEARS HAVE PASSED SINCE

25 THEN, HOW DO I VALUE STRICTLY OR STRONGLY



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1 CLASSICS-BASED EDUCATION. I STILL THINK IT'S VERY

2 VALUABLE, BUT I MUST ADMIT THAT IT CROWDED OUT SOME

3 SUBJECTS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN EVEN MORE VALUABLE.

4 ALTHOUGH I HAD LOTS OF HISTORY, IT WAS MOSTLY

5 DYNASTIC HISTORY AND I HAD NO CULTURAL OR POLITICAL

6 HISTORY AT ALL. AND I HAD NO COURSES IN LOTS OF

7 SUBJECTS THAT ARE IMPORTANT FOR THE AVERAGE CITIZEN

8 LIKE ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH DEMOCRACY OR

9 CITIZENSHIP OR OTHER SUBJECTS IN DAILY LIFE.

10 BUT THE IGNORANCE WHICH THIS PRODUCED, THIS

11 ABSENCE OF THESE SUBJECTS IS FOUND EVERYWHERE, NOT

12 ONLY IN GERMANY, BUT CERTAINLY MOST WHEN I CAME TO

13 THE UNITED STATES IN 1931 WAS THE INCREDIBLE

14 IGNORANCE OF MOST AMERICANS, INCLUDING COLLEGE

15 GRADUATES, ABOUT THE REST OF THE WORLD. HERE WE

16 ARE THE MOST POWERFUL NATION WITH INTERESTS IN ALL

17 PARTS OF THE WORLD AND YET, WHEN THE RECENT TROUBLE

18 IN YUGOSLAVIA BROKE OUT, EVEN THE NEW YORK TIMES

19 FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS COMPLETELY MISREPRESENTED THE

20 SITUATION ASCRIBING THE GENOCIDAL ACTIVITIES TO THE

21 YUGOSLAV ARMY WHEN EVERY EUROPEAN KNEW THAT IT WAS

22 THE SERBS WHO WERE TO BE PEGGED FOR THIS.

23 NO MATTER WHAT WE MAY DEMAND, A LIBERAL

24 EDUCATION MUST ELIMINATE THAT KIND OF IGNORANCE,

25 AND SUCH IGNORANCE IS FOUND IN MANY AREAS. LET US



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1 ONLY MENTION RECENT ENCOUNTERS BETWEEN CREATIONISTS

2 AND EVOLUTIONISTS.

3 AT THE END OF MY PRESENTATION, I WILL COME

4 BACK TO SOME CONCRETE SUGGESTIONS AS TO THE CONTENT

5 OF THE LIBERAL CURRICULUM AND SUM UP AT THIS TIME

6 MY CONCLUSIONS IN THE STATEMENT THAT THE FOREMOST

7 TASK OF LIBERAL EDUCATION IS TO ELIMINATE SHAMEFUL

8 IGNORANCE.

9 LIBERAL EDUCATION SHOULD PREPARE A YOUNG

10 AMERICAN FOR HIS ADULT LIFE. THAT, PARTLY

11 SPEAKING, IS WHAT LIBERAL EDUCATION MEANS. I FULLY

12 REALIZE THAT IT IS A VACUOUS STATEMENT UNTIL WE

13 LIST SPECIFICALLY THE ITEMS A YOUNG AMERICAN NEEDS

14 FOR HIS ADULT LIFE. THIS IS, OF COURSE, WHAT MOST

15 OF THE SPEAKERS HAVE DONE IN THE LAST TWO DAYS.

16 NOW LET ME COME TO PRAGMATISM. THE EVALUATION

17 OF PRAGMATISM IS DIFFICULT FOR A NONPROFESSIONAL

18 BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH DIVERSITY IN THIS FIELD.

19 CRITICS, FOR EXAMPLE, CLAIM THAT WILLIAM JAMES HAD

20 TURNED PEIRCE'S IDEAS UPSIDE DOWN. DEWEY REJECTS

21 TELEOLOGY WHILE RORTY SUPPORTS IT. ARTHUR LOVEJOY

22 IN 1908 SAID THAT HE COULD RECOGNIZE 13 KINDS OF

23 PRAGMATISM. SINCE THAT TIME WE HAVE THE

24 PUBLICATIONS OF RORTY, HILLARY PUTNAM AND SEVERAL

25 OTHER PEOPLE. IF YOU WOULD ALL ADD THEM UP I DON'T



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1 KNOW HOW MANY TIMES OF PRAGMATISM, LOVEJOY IF HE

2 WERE STILL ALIVE, WOULD NOW RECOGNIZE.

3 TO AN OUTSIDER LIKE MYSELF THIS WAS A REAL

4 JUNGLE OF KINDS OF PRAGMATISM. IN THIS CASE I USED

5 OCCAM'S RAZOR TO THRASH THROUGH ALL THESE KINDS OF

6 PRAGMATISMS AND KINDLY CAME UP SURELY TO THE DISMAY

7 OF THE PHILOSOPHER WITH JUST TWO KINDS OF

8 PRAGMATISM.

9 THE FIRST ONE IS EPISTEMOLOGICAL PRAGMATISM

10 ACCORDING TO WHICH TRUTH IS ESTABLISHED OR

11 DETERMINED BY ITS EFFICACY IN PRACTICAL

12 APPLICATION, THAT WHICH WORKS BEST. PERSONALLY I

13 QUESTION THE VALIDITY OF EPISTEMOLOGICALLY

14 PRAGMATISM. IN EVERYDAY LIFE WE FIND IT MOST

15 PRACTICAL TO ACT AS IF THE EARTH WERE FLAT AND WE

16 FIND IT MOST PRACTICAL TO CONSIDER SINCE THE SUN IS

17 GOING DOWN IN THIS EVENING, COMES UP IN THE MORNING

18 THAT OBVIOUSLY THE SUN CIRCLES AROUND THE EARTH,

19 BUT NOW WE KNOW PERFECTLY WELL THIS IS NOT THE

20 TRUTH.

21 THEREFORE, THE KIND OF PRAGMATISM THAT SAYS

22 JUST THE PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS PROVE WHAT IS RIGHT

23 AND WHAT IS WRONG IS NOT APPLICABLE TO SCIENCE.

24 FOR INSTANCE, ALSO IN ORDINARY PHYSICS NEWTON'S

25 EQUATIONS ARE SATISFACTORY BUT AS EINSTEIN HAS



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1 SHOWN, THEY ARE NOT THE ULTIMATE TRUTH. TRUTH IN

2 SCIENCE IS ESTABLISHED BUT CONTINUOUS TESTING,

3 VERIFICATION AND FALSIFICATION. THE PRAGMATIC

4 APPROACH IS ADOPTED ONLY WHEN THERE ARE COMPETING

5 THEORIES. AMONG SEVERAL COMPETING ONES THAT THEORY

6 IS THE BEST WHICH PRODUCES THE BEST RESULTS. I'LL

7 COME BACK TO THIS ONE.

8 EARLY THIS CENTURY THE MENDELIAN GENETICISTS

9 AND THE LAMARCKIANS ARGUED ABOUT THE CORRECT THEORY

10 OF EVOLUTION. MOST NATURALISTS OPTED FOR

11 LAMARCKISM BECAUSE IT WAS BASED ON GRADUALISM AND

12 NATURALISTS HAD ABUNDANT EVIDENCE THAT THEIR

13 CONCLUSIONS -- FOR THEIR CONCLUSION THAT EVOLUTION

14 WAS GRADUAL.

15 MENDELIAN EVOLUTION AS PROPOSED BY BATESON,

16 DEVRIES AND JOHANNSEN INVOLVED SALTATIONS IN THE

17 SEQUENCE, MUTATIONS AND REQUIRES THE REJECTION OF

18 NATURAL SELECTION. ON MIGHT THEREFORE SAY AT THAT

19 TIME LAMARCKISM WAS THE PRAGMATIST'S CHOICE OF

20 EVOLUTIONARY THEORY AMONG THESE TWO COMPETING

21 THEORIES.

22 THIS IS TRUE ONLY ONLY WHEN THERE ARE SEVERAL

23 SEEMINGLY EQUAL AND WELL-SUPPORTED THEORIES

24 COMPETING WITH EACH OTHER. NORMALLY IN SCIENCE

25 PRAGMATISM IS NOT THE WAY TO TRUTH, AS DEWEY



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1 RECOGNIZED QUITE EARLY IN HIS CAREER. THE OTHER

2 KIND OF PRAGMATISM THAT I RECOGNIZE AND ACTUALLY

3 I'M SURE THAT THE STUDENTS OF PRAGMATISM WOULD SAY

4 THAT IT HAS MANY DIFFERENT SUBSPECIES, IS

5 SUBJECTIVE OR EVERYDAY PRAGMATISM, DEALING WITH

6 PERSONAL ACTIONS AND THE ADOPTION OF VALUE SYSTEMS.

7 TRUTH IN A PHILOSOPHICAL SENSE IS NOT INVOLVED, BUT

8 ONLY THE OBSERVABLE RESULTS OF ACTIONS AND OF THE

9 APPLICATION OF VALUES. THE OUTCOME OF AN ACTION

10 DETERMINES WHETHER IT IS TO BE CONSIDERED AS

11 CONSTRUCTIVE AND USEFUL. THIS KIND OF PRAGMATISM

12 IS PARTICULARLY USEFUL IN THE CASE OF A MORAL

13 DILEMMA. IT IS NOW RATHER CLEAR THAT THE MISTAKE

14 MADE BY THE EARLY PRAGMATISTS WAS TO APPLY THE SAME

15 STANDARDS OF FINDING TRUTH TO SCIENCE AND TO

16 ETHICS. PRAGMATISM INDEED IS A VALUABLE APPROACH

17 IN ETHICS, BUT IT IS NOT A SUITABLE APPROACH IN

18 SCIENCE. HOWEVER, IT IS A VALUABLE GUIDE IN ANY

19 KIND OF DECISION MAKING IN DAILY LIFE.

20 THERE'S ONLY ONE SUBJECT MATTER IN SCIENCE

21 WHERE I APPLIED PRAGMATISM. IT IS IN THE QUESTION

22 OF REALISM, ONE OF THE BIG CONTROVERSIES IN

23 PHILOSOPHY. I ADOPT COMMON SENSE REALISM BECAUSE

24 IT WORKS. I ACCEPT THAT THERE IS AN OUTSIDE WORLD

25 AND THAT IT IS MORE OR LESS AS WHAT OUR SENSE



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1 ORGANS TELL US. OF COURSE, WE REALIZE THAT OUR

2 SENSE ORGANS ARE VERY INADEQUATE. WE CAN SEE

3 NEITHER ULTRAVIOLET NOR INFRARED. OUR OLFACTORY

4 SENSE IS SCANDALOUSLY POOR, AS COMPARED TO MOST

5 OTHER MAMMALS OR EVEN MOST INSECTS. HOWEVER,

6 NATURAL SELECTION HAS GIVEN US THE SENSORY

7 EQUIPMENT TO OPERATE SUCCESSFULLY IN THE WORLD WE

8 LIVE IN.

9 I CALL THIS WORLD REVEALED TO US BY OUR SENSE

10 ORGANS AND AUXILIARY INSTRUMENTS LIKE THE

11 MICROSCOPE, THE MIDDLE WORLD. IT EXTENDS FROM THE

12 ATOM TO THE SOLAR SYSTEM. BELOW IT IS THE WORLD OF

13 THE ATOM AND ELEMENTARY PARTICLES, AND ABOVE IT IS

14 THE WORLD OF THE OUTER COSMOS.

15 THE LIBERATING CONSEQUENCE OF THE RECOGNITION

16 OF THESE TWO OTHER WORLDS IS THAT THE SUBATOMIC AND

17 THE TRANSGALACTIC WORLDS ARE ALL OF NO RELEVANCE

18 WHATSOEVER TO US. I KNOW OF NO DISCOVERY IN THESE

19 TWO WORLDS THAT HAD ANY INFLUENCE WHATSOEVER ON OUR

20 UNDERSTANDING OF THE MIDDLE WORLD. THIS MEANS THAT

21 THE ONLY WORLD OF ANY CONSEQUENCE FOR BIOLOGY,

22 ANTHROPOLOGY, PSHYCHOLOGY, SOCIOLOGY AND THE

23 HUMANITIES IS THE MIDDLE WORLD. HENCE, THE

24 SCHOLARS IN THESE FIELDS OCCUPY THEMSELVES

25 EXCLUSIVELY WITH THE MIDDLE WORLD AND DO NOT FEEL



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1 IN THE LEAST GUILTY ABOUT IGNORING THE OTHER TWO

2 WORLDS. THIS ELIMINATES A HUGE AMOUNT OF ACTUAL

3 AND POTENTIAL CONTROVERSIES.

4 I NOW COME TO BIOLOGY, THE SCIENCE OF THE

5 LIVING WORLD. UNTIL ABOUT 50 YEARS AGO, PHYSICS

6 WAS THE DOMINANT SCIENCE. NOW IT IS SAID AGAIN AND

7 AGAIN THIS IS THE CENTURY OF BIOLOGY. THIS CHANGE

8 IS NOT ONLY DUE TO THE VICTORIOUS MARCH OF

9 MOLECULAR BIOLOGY, BUT ALSO TO THE WORKING OUT OF A

10 UNIFIED THEORY OF EVOLUTION WHICH VIRTUALLY ENDED

11 ALL STRIFE WITHIN EVOLUTIONARY BIOLOGY, AS WELL AS

12 BY ADVANCES IN NEARLY ALL OTHER BRANCHES OF BIOLOGY

13 UP TO NEUROBIOLOGY. RELATED BRANCHES OF SCIENCE

14 SUCH AN ANTHROPOLOGY AND PSYCHOLOGY ALSO HAVE

15 BECOME INCREASINGLY BIOLOGICAL.

16 THE PREVIOUS DOMINANCE OF THE PHYSICAL

17 SCIENCES IS REFLECTED IN THE PHILOSOPHY OF SCIENCE.

18 FROM THE VIENNA CIRCLE TO CARNAP, HEMPEL, NAGEL AND

19 QUINE, UP TO POPPER AND KUHN PHILOSOPHY OF SCIENCE

20 WAS BASED ON LOGIC, MATHEMATICS AND PHYSICS. NOW A

21 NEW PHILOSOPHY OF BIOLOGY IS DEVELOPING, LARGELY

22 BASED ON DARWINIAN THINKING, MOVING IN AN ENTIRELY

23 DIFFERENT DIRECTION. IT REFLECTS, AMONG OTHERS,

24 THAT THEORIES IN THE PHYSICAL SCIENCES ARE USUALLY

25 BASED ON LAWS BUT THOSE IN BIOLOGY ARE BASED ON



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1 CONCEPTS.

2 THE IMPORTANCE OF CONCEPTS CANNOT BE

3 EXAGGERATED. OUR OWN WORLD VIEW, OUR

4 WELTANSCHAUUNG, IS BASED ON CONCEPTS SUCH AS

5 DEMOCRACY, FREEDOM, ALTRUISM, COMPETITION, PROGRESS

6 AND RESPONSIBILITY. CONCEPTS HAVE A NUMBER OF

7 CHARACTERISTICS WHICH HAVE NOT YET BEEN WELL

8 ARTICULATED. I'M GOING TO DEVOTE QUITE SOME TIME

9 NOW TO SHOW WHAT ARE THE CONCEPTS AND WHAT ARE THE

10 ASPECTS OF CONCEPTS THAT NEED FURTHER STUDY.

11 ONE OF THESE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR CHANGE. AND

12 LET ME ILLUSTRATE THIS BY THE CONCEPT EVOLUTION.

13 AND DON'T THINK NOW THAT I'M TRYING TO GIVE YOU A

14 LECTURE ON EVOLUTION ON BIOLOGY. THAT IS ONLY

15 INCIDENTAL. BUT I WANT TO SHOW ON THIS CONCEPT

16 EVOLUTION HOW IT HAS CHANGED OVER TIME. WHEN

17 PLATONIC ESSENTIALISM WAS A DOMINANT PHILOSOPHY,

18 EVOLUTION COULD TAKE PLACE ONLY THROUGH THE ORIGIN

19 OF A NEW ESSENCE. EVOLUTION THUS WAS A SALTATIONAL

20 PROCESS JUMPING ACROSS A DISCONTINUITY. THE

21 TRANSMUTATIONISM OF THE MENDELIANS WAS BASED ON

22 ESSENTIALISM. THAT'S WHY THEY SAID THAT ALL

23 EVOLUTION WOULD HAPPEN THROUGH DEFINITE MUTATIONS

24 THAT ESTABLISHED NEW SPECIES.

25 THE SECOND CONCEPT OF EVOLUTION WAS THE



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1 PROPOSAL OF TRASFORMATIONISM, A NEW CONCEPT OF

2 EVOLUTION IN WHICH A PARTICULAR OBJECT OR ENTITY

3 GRADUALLY BECOMES TRANSFORMED. INDIVIDUAL

4 DEVELOPMENT FROM THE FERTILIZED EGG UP TO THE ADULT

5 WAS THE CLASSIC ILLUSTRATION OF TRANSFORMATIONISM,

6 AND THE WORD EVOLUTION WAS FIRST PROPOSED FOR THE

7 DEVELOPMENT OF THE EMBRYO.

8 ALL SO-CALLED EVOLUTIONS IN THE INANIMATE

9 WORLD AS IN ASTRONOMY OR GEOLOGY, CONSIST OF EITHER

10 GRADUAL OR MORE OR LESS EXPLOSIVE TRANSFORMATIONS

11 OF A CONCRETE OBJECT. LAMARCK'S THEORY OF

12 EVOLUTION WAS A TRANSFORMATIONALIST THEORY.

13 WHAT DARWIN PROPOSED, WHICH WAS A THIRD

14 CONCEPT OF EVOLUTION, AND IT WAS AN ENTIRELY NEW

15 CONCEPT OF EVOLUTION BASED ON HIS EQUALLY NEW

16 CONCEPT OF THE BIOLOGIC POPULATION. INSTEAD OF

17 RECOGNIZING CLASSES AS THE PLATO AND THE FOLLOWERS

18 OF PLATO DEFINED BY CONSTANT, SHARPLY DEMARCATED

19 ESSENCE, DARWIN RECOGNIZED THAT EVERY POPULATION OF

20 LIVING ORGANISM CONSISTS OF UNIQUE, GENETICALLY

21 DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS, NO TWO OF WHICH ARE THE

22 SAME, NOT EVEN ALONG THE FIVE OR SIX BILLION HUMAN

23 INDIVIDUALS. EVOLUTION IN THIS CASE IS THE

24 REPLACEMENT IN EACH GENERATION OF A POPULATION OF

25 UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS BY ANOTHER SUCH POPULATION.



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1 I'M SHOWING YOU IN THIS CASE THE SIMPLE WORD

2 EVOLUTION REPRESENTS THREE VERY DIFFERENT CONCEPTS

3 THAT FOLLOW EACH OTHER AND MUCH OF THE CONFUSION

4 THE LITERATURE -- AND AS SUCH EVEN DEWEY WAS

5 AFFECTED BY THIS -- CONSISTED OF THE MIXING UP OF

6 TWO OF THESE THREE CONCEPTS.

7 NOW, LET ME MENTION TWO OTHER IMPORTANT

8 ASPECTS OF CONCEPTS. ONE IS THAT A CONCEPT IN A

9 COURSE OF TIME MAY BECOME OBSOLETE. THE CONCEPT OF

10 SUPERNATURAL POWERS WAS STILL A DOMINANT CONCEPT AT

11 THE TIME OF THE SCIENTIFIC REVOLUTION. IT PLAYED A

12 CONSIDERABLE ROLE IN NATURAL THEOLOGY AND IN THE

13 THINKING OF MOST PHILOSOPHERS UNTIL THE TIME OF

14 KANT. EVEN NEWTON INVOKED GOD TO STAKE OUT THE

15 MOVEMENTS OF STARS AND PLANETS IN PARTICULAR TO

16 STAY AWAY FROM THEIR PATHS.

17 SUPERNATURAL POWERS PLAYED A CONSIDERABLE ROLE

18 IN THE NATURAL THEOLOGY AND IN THE THINKING OF MOST

19 PHILOSOPHERS UP TO THE TIME OF KANT. KANT

20 CONSTANTLY INVOKED, MORE OR LESS QUIETLY, NOT

21 MAKING MUCH FUSS ABOUT IT, BUT HE INVOKED

22 ULTIMATELY THE HAND OF GOD. AND, OF COURSE, A

23 BELIEF IN THE SUPERNATURAL WAS A MAJOR OBSTACLE FOR

24 THE ADOPTION OF DARWINIAN THOUGHT.

25 ANOTHER CONCEPT THAT'S BECOMING OBSOLETE IS



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1 PLATONIC ESSENTIALISM. THIS IS THE BELIEF THAT THE

2 WORLD CONSISTS OF A LIMITED NUMBER OF CLASSES,

3 DEFINED BY THEIR NATURE OR ESSENCE, THE MEMBERS OF

4 EACH CLASS BEING CONSTANT IN TIME AND IDENTICAL

5 WITH EACH OTHER EXCEPT FOR WHAT THOSE SCHOLASTICS

6 CALLED ACCIDENTS.

7 THIS PHILOSOPHY WENT BACK TO THE THINKING OF

8 THE PYTHAGOREANS AND PLATO DOMINATED NOT ONLY

9 PHILOSOPHY, BUT ALSO THE THINKING OF THE COMMON

10 MAN. RACISM IS A TYPICAL ESSENTIALISTIC IDEOLOGY.

11 ESSENTIALISM IS NOW INCREASINGLY REPLACED BY

12 DARWIN'S POPULATION THINKING. THESE ARE TWO CASES

13 OF CONCEPTS THAT HAVE BECOME OBSOLETE OR ON THE WAY

14 TO OBSOLESCENCE. OTHERS ARE VITALISM, PANPSYCHISM

15 AND CARTESIAN MECHANISM. I COULD MAKE A WHOLE LIST

16 OF CONCEPTS THAT AT ONE TIME WERE DOMINANT AND ARE

17 NOW ON THE WAY OF GOING OUT.

18 THE SECOND VITALLY IMPORTANT ASPECT OF

19 CONCEPTS IS THAT A SINGLE TERM SOMETIMES COVERS

20 THREE, FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT CONCEPTS WITHOUT THE

21 AUTHORS WHO USE THIS TERM BEING AWARE OF IT. THIS

22 IS TRUE, FOR INSTANCE, FOR THE TERM TELEOLOGICAL.

23 THERE ARE FIVE ACTUAL OR POTENTIAL PHENOMENA OR

24 PROCESSES IN NATURE THAT HAVE BEEN DESIGNATED AS

25 TELEOLOGICAL BUT ARE FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT FROM



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1 EACH OTHER.

2 LET ME MENTION ONLY TWO OF THEM. ONE REFERS

3 TO A TELEONOMIC PROCESSES, THAT IS, PROCESSES,

4 BEHAVIORS OR ACTIVITIES CODED IN A GENETIC PROGRAM

5 AND LEADING TO A DEFINITE GOAL. THE DEVELOPMENT OF

6 AN INDIVIDUAL FROM THE FERTILIZED EGG IS PROGRAMMED

7 IN ITS GENOTYPE, IS THE MOST OFTEN DESCRIBED

8 TELEONOMIC ACTIVITY. THERE'S NOTHING MYSTERIOUS,

9 NOTHING TRANSCENDENTAL IN SUCH GOAL FINDING

10 BEHAVIOR BECAUSE NOT ONLY THE GOAL BUT ALSO THE

11 PATHWAY TO IT IS CONTAINED IN THE GENETIC PROGRAM.

12 TELEONOMIC PROCESSES ARE TOTALLY ACCEPTABLE TO

13 SCIENCE AND CAN ULTIMATELY BE EXPLAINED IN TERMS OF

14 CHEMISTRY AND PHYSICS. WHEN ARISTOTLE, I'LL COME

15 BACK TO THIS, TALKED ABOUT FINAL CAUSES AND SO

16 FORTH, HE VIRTUALLY ALWAYS MEANT TELEONOMIC

17 PROCESS, PARTICULARLY THE UNDERGENETIC PROCESS.

18 HOWEVER, PARTICULARLY IN PHILOSOPHY THE TERM

19 TELEOLOGY HAS BEEN USED MOST FREQUENTLY FOR

20 SO-CALLED COSMIC TELEOLOGY. IT IS THE POSTULATE

21 THAT THERE IS SOME FORCE IN THIS WORLD WHICH LEADS

22 IT ON TO PROGRESS AND GREATER PERFECTION. COSMIC

23 TELEOLOGY PLAYED A LARGE ROLE IN PRE-DARWINIAN

24 THINKING, FOR INSTANCE, IN THE PHILOSOPHY OF

25 IMMANUEL KANT. ALL MODERN RESEARCHERS IN THE



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1 PHYSICAL AND BIOLOGICAL SCIENCES HAVE FAILED TO

2 FAILED TO FIND ANY EVIDENCE FOR THE ACTUAL

3 EXISTENCE OF SUCH COSMIC TELEOLOGY. VARIOUS CLAIMS

4 NOTWITHSTANDING, DARWIN CLEARLY REJECTED IT, AND SO

5 DID JOHN DEWEY AFTER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF

6 HESITATION. ON THE OTHER HAND, RORTY HAS CLEARLY

7 EXPRESSED TELEOLOGIC SENTIMENTS. INDEED, HE

8 STATED, QUOTED, TELEOLOGIC THINKING IS INEVITABLE.

9 I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY REFERRED TO BY THIS BECAUSE

10 FOR ME IT'S NEVER BEEN INEVITABLE.

11 ON THIS OCCASION I WANT TO RESCUE THE

12 REPUTATION OF ARISTOTLE WHO HAS OFTEN BEEN CALLED A

13 COSMIC TELEOLOGIST. THIS, HOWEVER, HE WAS NOT AS

14 CLEARLY DEMONSTRATED BY THE RECENT ARISTOTLE

15 SCHOLARS, GOTTHELF, LENNOX, BALME AND NUSSBAUM WHO

16 VERY CAREFULLY WENT THROUGH ARISTOTLE'S WRITINGS TO

17 NAIL THIS DOWN. ARISTOTLE DESCRIBED TELEONOMIC

18 PROCESSES THAT TAKE PLACE IN EMBRYONIC DEVELOPMENT.

19 MAX DELBRUCK, A FAMOUS PHYSICIST AND

20 GENETICIST, WHO GOT THE NOBEL PRIZE TOGETHER WITH

21 SOME OTHER GENETICISTS FOR HIS WORK ON THE GENETIC

22 PROGRAM, HAS POINTED OUT THAT ONE ACHIEVES A

23 REMARKABLY MODERN ACCOUNT IN ARISTOTLE'S

24 EMBRYOLOGICAL ANALYSES IF ONE TRANSLATES HIS TERM

25 EIDOS BY GENETIC PROGRAM.



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1 THE USE OF THE SAME TREND FOR ENTIRELY

2 DIFFERENT PROCESSES HAS BEEN THE CAUSE OF MANY

3 CONTROVERSIES IN SCIENCE AND PHILOSOPHY. REDUCTION

4 WHICH HAS AT LEAST THREE DIFFERENT MEANS IS ANOTHER

5 TYPICAL CASE.

6 PERMIT ME NOW TO SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT

7 DARWIN'S CONCEPTUAL BREAKTHROUGHS. I'VE ALREADY

8 MENTIONED THE REPLACEMENT OF THE ESSENCE BY THE

9 BIO-POPULATION. DARWIN WAS ONE OF THE FIRST

10 PHILOSOPHERS WHO CREDITED CHANCE WITH THE

11 IMPORTANCE IT IS NOW GIVEN IN SCIENCE AND

12 PHILOSOPHY. HE ENDED, JACQUES MONOD

13 NOTWITHSTANDING, THE CONTROVERSY OVER CHANCE OR

14 NECESSITY. DARWIN SHOWED THAT IN THE FIRST STEP OF

15 NATURAL SELECTION, THE PRODUCTION OF LITERALLY

16 UNLIMITED VARIABILITY, CHANCE IS SUPREME. THE

17 SECOND STEP, THE ACTUAL SELECTION IS AN ANTI-CHANCE

18 PROCESS. HENCE, THE TRUTH IS THAT IN EVOLUTION

19 BOTH CHANCE AND NECESSITY OCCUR. THERE IS NO DOUBT

20 THAT DARWIN GREATLY CONTRIBUTED TO THE END OF

21 STRAIGHT DETERMINISM. FURTHERMORE, THROUGH HIS

22 THEORY OF COMMON DESCENT, DARWIN LED BACK TO A

23 SINGLE ORIGIN OF LIFE ON EARTH. AND THIS HAS NOT

24 BEEN CONFIRMED BY MOLECULAR BIOLOGY BY SHOWING THAT

25 ALL LIVING ORGANISMS, DOWN TO THE SIMPLEST



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1 BACTERIA, HAVE THE SAME GENETIC CODE AND THE SAME

2 CELLULAR MECHANISMS. IT IS CURIOUS HOW LONG, OWING

3 TO THE PROMINENCE OF PHYSICALISM, IT WAS OVERLOOKED

4 WHAT A GREAT PHILOSOPHER DARWIN HAD BEEN.

5 BEFORE CLOSING, LET ME SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT

6 JOHN DEWEY AND HIS RELATION TO SOME OF THE TOPICS

7 I'VE JUST DISCUSSED. IT WAS IN 1909 THAT DEWEY

8 WROTE HIS FAMOUS PAPER, THE INFLUENCE OF DARWINISM

9 IN PHILOSOPHY. IT WAS, OF COURSE, WRITTEN TO

10 CELEBRATE THE 100TH ANNIVERSARY OF DARWIN'S BIRTH

11 AND THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE PUBLICATION IN 1859

12 OF ON THE ORIGIN OF SPECIES.

13 IRONICALLY, THE FIRST TWO DECADES OF THE 20TH

14 CENTURY SAW ABOUT THE LOWEST POINT IN THE PRESTIGE

15 OF DARWINISM. THE LEADERS OF THE NEW GENETICS,

16 PARTICULARLY THE MENDELIANS -- I'VE ALREADY

17 MENTIONED THEM -- DEVRIES, BATESON AND JOHANNSEN,

18 BUT PRIOR TO 1910 ALSO T. H. MORGAN REJECTED

19 DARWINISM AND BELIEVED IN SALTATIONAL EVOLUTION,

20 THAT IS EVOLUTION BY MAJOR MUTATIONS.

21 IT WAS IN THOSE YEARS THAT PAPERS WERE

22 PUBLISHED WITH THE TITLE AT THE DEATH BED OF

23 DARWINISM. IT IS RATHER REMARKABLE THAT IT WAS

24 EXACTLY AT THAT PERIOD THAT DEWEY DECLARED HIMSELF

25 A CHAMPION OF DARWINISM. JUST EXACTLY WHY DID



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1 DEWEY THINK THAT DARWIN AND DARWINISM WERE SO

2 IMPORTANT?

3 WE CANNOT ANSWER THIS QUESTION UNTIL WE HAVE

4 DETERMINED EXACTLY WHAT THE WORD DARWINISM MEANT TO

5 HIM. AS I RECENTLY SHOWED, THERE ARE AT LEAST

6 SEVEN DIFFERENT CONCEPTS OF DARWINISM IN THE

7 LITERATURE. AT THE PRESENT TIME, OF COURSE,

8 DARWINISM MEANS AN EVOLUTIONARY THEORY BASED ON THE

9 PRINCIPLE OF NATURAL SELECTION. BUT OTHER PERIODS

10 THE WORD MEANT DIFFERENT THINGS. FOR INSTANCE,

11 RIGHT AFTER 1859 DARWINISM MEANT NOTHING MORE THAN

12 A BELIEF IN EVOLUTION, NOT GUIDED BY A SUPREME

13 BEING OR ANY OTHER SUPERNATURAL FACTORS.

14 THEREFORE, THE GEOLOGIST, CHARLES LYELL AND

15 DARWIN'S FRIEND T. H. HUXLEY WERE CONSIDERED BY

16 EVERYONE TO BE DARWINIANS EVEN THOUGH NEITHER OF

17 THE TWO ACCEPTED NATURAL SELECTION. UNDER THESE

18 CIRCUMSTANCES IT BECOMES IMPORTANT TO DETERMINE

19 JUST EXACTLY WHAT JOHN DEWEY MEANT BY DARWINISM.

20 I CANNOT ANALYZE HERE DEWEY'S ENTIRE ESSAY.

21 HOWEVER, IT IS QUITE CLEAR THAT HE SAW IN DARWIN A

22 CHAMPION OF ANTI-ESSENTIALISM. UP TO NOW, SAYS

23 DEWEY, QUOTE, THE CONCEPTION OF EIDOS, SPECIES, A

24 FIXED FORM AND A FIXED CAUSE IS THE CENTRAL

25 PRINCIPLE OF KNOWLEDGE AS WELL AS OF NATURE. UPON



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1 IT RESTED THE LOGIC OF SCIENCE. CHANGE AS CHANGE

2 IS MERE FLUX AND LAPSE, END OF QUOTE.

3 FOR DEWEY THE GIST OF THE DARWINIAN REVOLUTION

4 WAS THE INTRODUCTION OF EVOLUTIONARY CHANGE, THE

5 REFUTATION OF THE FIXED AND CONSTANT. SINCE THIS

6 WAS FORESHADOWED IN THE WRITINGS OF COPERNICUS,

7 KEPLER, GALILEO AND THEIR SUCCESSORS IN ASTRONOMY

8 AND CHEMISTRY, SAY DEWEY, QUOTE, DARWIN WOULD HAVE

9 BEEN HELPLESS IN THE ORGANIC SCIENCES WITHOUT THESE

10 PREDECESSORS. THE INFLUENCE OF DARWIN UPON

11 PHILOSOPHY RESIDES IN HIS HAVING CONQUERED THE

12 PHENOMENON OF LIFE FOR THE PRINCIPLE OF TRANSITION,

13 AND THEREBY FREED THE NEW LOGIC FOR APPLICATION TO

14 MIND AND KNOWLEDGE AND LIFE. WHAT HE SAID OF

15 SPECIES, WHAT GALILEO HAD SAID OF THE EARTH, E PUR

16 SE MUOVE, HE EMANCIPATED ONCE FOR ALL, GENETIC AND

17 EXPERIMENTAL IDEAS AS AN ORGANUM OF ASKING

18 QUESTIONS AND LOOKING FOR EXPLANATIONS, END OF

19 QUOTE.

20 ESSENTIALISM MEANT CONSTANCY IN ALL

21 DIMENSIONS. ALL EARLY EVOLUTIONISTS FOR INSTANCE

22 LAMARCK, REJECTED FIXITY IN THE TIME DIMENSION.

23 THEY ACCEPTED THE IDEA THAT THE ESSENCE CHANGES

24 OVER TIME. DARWIN, THROUGH HIS POPULATION

25 PRINCIPLE, REJECTED, ADDITIONALLY CONSTANCY AT ANY



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1 GIVEN MOMENT IN THE GEOGRAPHICAL DIMENSIONS. EVEN

2 THOUGH DEWEY ACCEPTED NATURAL SELECTION, HE MADE A

3 NUMBER OF STATEMENTS INDICATING THAT HE HAD NOT YET

4 FULLY UNDERSTOOD DARWIN'S POPULATION THINKING.

5 DEWEY WAS MORE OR LESS A TRANSFORMATIONIST.

6 AGAIN AND AGAIN HE COMPARES EVOLUTION TO THE

7 DEVELOPMENT OF THE FERTILIZED EGG INTO AN ADULT,

8 BUT HE REALIZES THAT HE HAS NOT YET GRASPED THE

9 WHOLE OF THE STORY. THEREFORE, HE SAYS, QUOTE,

10 THROUGH A DESCRIPTION OF THE ONTOGENY OF THE

11 INDIVIDUAL, THE WHOLE MIRACULOUS TAIL IS NOT YET

12 TOLD. THE SAME GLAMOUR IS INACTED TO THE SAME

13 DESTINY IN COUNTLESS MILLIONS OF INDIVIDUALS SO

14 SUNDERED IN TIME, SO SEVERED IN SPACE, THAT THEY

15 HAVE NO OPPORTUNITY FOR MUTUAL CONSULTATION AND NO

16 MEANS OF INTERACTION. THIS FORMAL ACTIVITY KEEPS

17 INDIVIDUALS DISTANT IN SPACE AND REMOTE IN TIME TO

18 A UNIFORM TYPE OF STRUCTURE AND FUNCTION. THIS

19 PRINCIPLE SEEMED TO GIVE INSIGHT INTO THE VERY

20 NATURE OF REALITY ITSELF. TO IT ARISTOTLE GAVE THE

21 NAME EIDOS. THIS TERM SCHOLASTIC TRANSLATED AS

22 SPECIES.

23 HERE DEWEY REFERS TO WHAT WE NOW CALL THE

24 GENETIC PROGRAM OF A POPULATION OR SPECIES. IT IS

25 AN ANTICIPATION OF POPULATION THINKING, BUT NOT YET



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1 FULLY ARTICULATED.

2 DEWEY COMPLETELY REJECTS COSMIC TELEOLOGY, SO

3 POPULAR AMONG PHILOSOPHERS RIGHT UP TO THE PRESENT

4 DAY. HERE AGAIN HE FOLLOWS DARWIN. ALAS, I DON'T

5 HAVE THE TIME TO DEVELOP THIS THEME, BUT I WOULD

6 RATHER SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT DEWEY AND ETHICS.

7 IN 1898 UNDER THE TITLE EVOLUTION AND ETHICS

8 DEWEY PUBLISHED AN ANSWER TO T. H. HUXLEY'S FAMOUS

9 ROMANES LECTURE OF 1894 OF THE SAME TITLE. RIGHT

10 UP TO MODERN TIMES HUXLEY'S LECTURE HAS BEEN ALMOST

11 UNIVERSALLY CONSIDERED THE AUTHORITATIVE VIEW OF

12 ETHICS BY A DARWINIAN. THIS, HOWEVER, IS A GREAT

13 MISTAKE, AS DEWEY SAW QUITE CLEARLY. HUXLEY DID

14 NOT BELIEVE IN NATURAL SELECTION AND CONSIDERED IT

15 A NEBULOUS, QUOTE, COSMIC FORCE, END OF QUOTE. OF

16 COURSE THIS COULD NOT ACCOUNT FOR HUMAN ETHICS.

17 AND DEWEY REJECTS THIS ASSERTION QUITE

18 EMPHATICALLY. IT WOULD REQUIRE SEPARATE LECTURE TO

19 DEMONSTRATE HOW THE ORIGIN OF HUMAN ETHICS CAN BE

20 EXPLAINED IN DARWINIAN TERMS. LET ME ADD

21 PARENTHETICALLY THAT DARWIN IN 1871 IN HIS DESCENT

22 OF MAN STATED THAT THE POSSESSION OF AN ETHICAL

23 SYSTEM WAS THE MOST DECISIVE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MAN

24 AND ANY ANIMAL. ETHICS REQUIRES THE NEEDED HIGH

25 INTELLIGENCE TO BE ABLE TO FORESEE THE CONSEQUENCE



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1 OF ANY ACTION. THIS IS ONE OF THE BASIC CONDITIONS

2 FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF ETHICS. IF ONLY THE

3 INDIVIDUAL WERE THE TARGET OF SELECTION, THEN

4 INDEED, AS THE OPPONENTS OF DARWIN ALWAYS CLAIMED,

5 ONLY SELFISHNESS WOULD BE REWARDED BY NATURAL

6 SELECTION. HOWEVER, PRIMITIVE HOMINIDS AND

7 PRIMITIVE MAN LIVED IN SMALL GROUPS OF

8 HUNTER/GATHERERS, EACH GROUP IN SEVERE COMPETITION

9 WITH THE OTHERS. THEREFORE, IN ADDITION TO

10 INDIVIDUAL SELECTION, THE SOCIAL GROUP ALSO BECAME

11 AN OBJECT OF SELECTION. THOSE SOCIAL GROUPS HAVE

12 THE GREATEST PROBABILITY OF SURVIVAL AND PROSPERITY

13 WHICH HAVE THE MOST HARMONIOUS AND ALTRUISTIC

14 INTERACTION OF THE INDIVIDUALS OF WHICH THE GROUP

15 IS COMPOSED. HENCE, CONTRARY TO MANY AUTHORS,

16 THERE IS INDEED A SELECTIVE PREMIUM ON BENIGN

17 ETHICAL BEHAVIOR AND A SELECTION OF THOSE SOCIAL

18 GROUPS THAT CONSISTED OF THE MOST COOPERATIVE

19 INDIVIDUALS. HENCE, THERE IS NO DIFFICULTY IN

20 EXPLAINING THE ORIGIN OF HUMAN ETHICS IN TERMS OF

21 DARWINIAN NATURAL SELECTION.

22 I'M NEARING THE END OF MY PRESENTATION. YOU

23 MAY NOT HAVE BEEN AWARE OF IT, BUT EVEN IN THE LAST

24 SPOT I HAVE CONTINUOUSLY DEALT WITH CONCEPTS, THEIR

25 ORIGINS AND CHANGES. IT IS CONCEPTS THAT ARE THE



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1 SCAFFOLDING OF OUR WELTANSCHAUUNG. IT IS THE

2 CHANGE OF CONCEPTS THAT CHARACTERIZES THE CHANGE OF

3 THE ZEITGEIST OF PERIODS. IT IS THE

4 MISUNDERSTANDING OF CONCEPTS AND THE CONFLICT AMONG

5 APPOSING CONCEPTS THAT IS THE CAUSE OF MOST STRIFE

6 ON THIS WORLD. IF I WOULD WANT TO MAKE A

7 SUGGESTION AS TO WHAT SHOULD BE EMPHASIZED MORE

8 STRONGLY IN AN UP-TO-DATE LIBERAL EDUCATION, IT IS

9 A GREATER ROLE IN THE CURRICULUM OF THE STUDY OF

10 THE CONCEPTS THAT MAKE UP OUR WELTANSCHAUUNG AND A

11 MORE FINE-GRAINED ANALYSIS OF THE CONCEPTS THAT ARE

12 THE BASIS OF OUR BELIEF IN DEMOCRACY.

13 THANK YOU.

14 (Applause)

15 MS. BROWNLEE: DR. MAYR IS WILLING TO TAKE

16 SOME QUESTIONS. PLEASE BE SURE TO SPEAK CLEARLY

17 INTO THE MICROPHONE AND FAIRLY SLOWLY. DO WE HAVE

18 MICROPHONES? I'LL GIVE YOU A MOMENT TO THINK ABOUT

19 A RESPONSE TO THAT FINE TALK.

20 PROFESSOR ANDERSON: CHARLES ANDERSON,

21 UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN. DR. MAYR, THAT IS A

22 FASCINATING SPEECH. BUT COULD I SUGGEST THAT YOU

23 ARE INDEED A DEWEYIAN BECAUSE YOUR CONCLUSION IS

24 VERY HEGELIAN, IT IS THE EVOLUTION OF THE MIND AS

25 EXPRESSED IN CONCEPTS, IT IS THE PROPER OBJECT OF



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1 STUDY. COULD I SAY YOU ARE BOTH A DEWEYIAN AND A

2 DEWALIST?

3 PROFESSOR MAYR: WELL NOW, LET ME MENTION THAT

4 SOME YEARS AGO I LECTURED IN MUNICH AND THERE'S A

5 VERY STRONG CATHOLIC FACULTY AT UNIVERSITY OF

6 MUNICH AND THE TWO LEADING PROFESSORS HAVE WRITTEN

7 A NUMBER OF BOOKS AGAINST DARWINISM AND THAT SORT

8 OF THING. AND I WAS SURE THEY WOULD GET UP IN A

9 DISCUSSION AND ATTACK ME. BUT THEY HAD PREFERRED

10 TO STAY HOME AND INSTEAD SENT THE FIRST ASSISTANT

11 PROFESSOR OF THE INSTITUTE TO ASK ME QUESTIONS.

12 (Laughter).

13 PROFESSOR MAYR: IT BEGAN WITH THE QUESTION:

14 HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THE ORIGIN OF CONSCIOUSNESS IN

15 MAN? AND I SAID, YES, I'D BE GLAD TO TRY TO

16 DISCUSS THAT. BUT LET YOU FIRST PROVE TO ME THAT

17 THE AMOEBA DOES NOT HAVE ANY CONSCIOUSNESS. AND HE

18 NEVER CAME BACK. SO THAT WAS THE END OF THAT

19 ARGUMENT.

20 NOW LET ME TAKE UP THE QUESTION OF MIND, THE

21 HUMAN MIND. I CAN ASK YOU THAT SAME QUESTION.

22 WHEN YOU WATCH A GROUP OF LIONESSES SPLIT UP AND IN

23 ORDER TO CUT OFF THE ESCAPE OF THEIR PRAY, ONE GO

24 BEHIND IT AND THE OTHER IN FRONT AND ATTACK AND DO

25 ALL OTHER SORTS OF HIGHLY INTELLIGENT ACTIONS,



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1 THERE IS JUST NO QUESTION, OF COURSE, THEY HAVE

2 MIND.

3 AND YOU CAN GO DOWN TO THE ANIMAL SERIES AND

4 YOU FIND EVEN JENNINGS IN HIS WORK ON PROTOZOANS

5 SHOWED THAT IN THE REACTION OF THESE PROTOZOANS

6 EITHER TO TOXIC SUBSTANCES IN THE MEDIUM OR TO

7 SEEMING ENEMIES OR TO POTENTIAL FOOD SOURCES, THEY

8 SHOW AN AWARENESS OF THEIR SURROUNDINGS THAT YOU

9 CAN EASILY DESCRIBE AS THEY HAVE A MIND.

10 NOW, I DON'T RECOGNIZE THIS DEWALISM BETWEEN

11 MIND AND BODY. THE ONLY DEWALISM WE HAVE IN LIVING

12 ORGANISM IS THE DEWALISM BETWEEN THE PROTEINS THAT

13 ARE PRODUCED BY THE GENETIC PROGRAM AND THE GENETIC

14 PROGRAM. THAT IS THE MOST WONDERFUL DEMARKATION

15 BETWEEN ORGANISMS AND INANIMATE MATTER. I'M SURE

16 THAT THIS DOES NOT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION DIRECTLY,

17 BUT I DO THINK IT ANSWERS IT INDIRECTLY.

18 MR. RAMSEY: BRIAN RAMSEY, DEPARTMENT OF

19 CHEMISTRY HERE AT ROLLINS. THERE'S A NOTION WHICH

20 I CONFESS I'M ONLY MYSELF SUPERFICIALLY AWARE OF,

21 BUT THAT'S THE IDEA OF MEANS OR CONCEPTS WHICH PLAY

22 THE ROLE IN SOCIETY IN DEVELOPMENT OF SOCIETY AS

23 THE WAY JEANS FUNCTION IN GENETICS. IS THERE SOME

24 ROOM IN THIS IDEA FOR YOU OR WOULD YOU CARE TO

25 MENTION THAT?



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1 PROFESSOR MAYR: THE DEVELOPMENT OF SOCIETY?

2 MR. RAMSEY: THE IDEA OF A UNIT CALLED A MENE

3 RATHER THAN A GENE, A MENE (sic) IS A CONCEPT OR

4 IDEA THAT PLAYS THE SAME ROLE IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF

5 CULTURES AND SOCIETIES THAT GENES PLAY IN GENETICS.

6 IN OTHER WORDS, ONE CAN IMAGINE SORT OF A DARWINIAN

7 SURVIVAL MECHANISM FOR CONCEPTS IN THE DEVELOPMENT

8 OF SOCIETIES.

9 PROFESSOR MAYR: YOU MEAN DAWKINS' TERM?

10 MR. RAMSEY: YES.

11 PROFESSOR MAYR: THEN WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY THAT?

12 MR RAMSEY: BECAUSE I'M A PROFESSOR AND NOT

13 USED TO BEING SO CLEAR.

14 PROFESSOR MAYR: DAWKINS IS AS MUCH IMPRESSED

15 BY THE EXISTENCE OF CONCEPTS AND THEIR ROLE AS I

16 AM, BUT DAWKINS LOVES TO MAKE TERMS. AND SINCE THE

17 WORD CONCEPT DOESN'T RHYME WITH GENE, HE DECIDED TO

18 TRY THE WORD MENE. AND IT IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS

19 CONCEPTS. AND CONCEPTS, OF COURSE, AS I EXPLAINED

20 ALL THROUGH MY TALK, HAVE PLAYED AN ENORMOUS ROLE

21 IN THE EVOLUTION OF HUMAN SOCIETY.

22 MS. BROWNLEE: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DR. MAYR,

23 AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS.

24 DR. PETER LYMAN WAS EDUCATED AT STANFORD

25 UNIVERSITY AND AT UC BERKELEY AND HIS FIELD WAS



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1 PHILOSOPHY THEN POLITICAL SCIENCE. HIS EARLY

2 RESEARCH IN TEACHING INTERESTS, POLITICAL SOCIOLOGY

3 OF EMOTIONS INCLUDING ANGER, ETHNOGRAPHY, POLITICAL

4 THEORY. SUBSEQUENTLY HIS INTEREST IN ACADEMIC

5 COMPUTING WAS KINDLED UNTIL NOW WHEN HE HOLDS THE

6 POSITION OF UNIVERSITY LIBRARIAN, UC BERKELEY AND

7 PROFESSOR IN THE SCHOOL OF INFORMATION MANAGEMENT

8 AND SYSTEMS.

9 IT WAS PETER LYMAN WHO FIRST REVEALED TO ME

10 THE MISLEADING METAPHORS OF THE COMPUTER. IN THE

11 MILITARY HARD EDGE LANGUAGE OF MACHINERY, COMMANDS

12 AND DELETES AND UNVEILED NEW THINKING OF THIS

13 MARVELOUS TOOL AS AN INSTRUMENT OF IMMENSE

14 CREATIVITY AND ENDLESS AVAILABILITY. HE THINKS

15 DEEPLY ABOUT INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, ITS PROMISE

16 AND ITS POTENTIAL. WE NEED TO HEAR HIM AS WE PLUMB

17 THE CONTEMPORARY SHAPE OF LIBERAL EDUCATION.

18 DR. PETER LYMAN.

19 MR. LYMAN: ONE OF THE DIFFICULT THINGS ABOUT

20 SPEAKING AT A CONFERENCE LIKE THIS THIS LATE IS

21 I'VE REWRITTEN MY TALK WITH EVERYBODY ELSE'S TALK.

22 I WROTE A PAPER ON TECHNOLOGY IN LIBERAL EDUCATION

23 FOR A CONFERENCE ORGANIZED BY NICK FARNHAM THAT WAS

24 PUBLISHED IN RETHINKING LIBERAL EDUCATION AND

25 REPUBLISHED IN LIBERAL EDUCATION.



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1 IT WAS PERHAPS THE FIRST PAPER I'VE EVER

2 WRITTEN THAT PEOPLE WROTE TO ME ABOUT. AND TWO

3 PEOPLE, IN PARTICULAR, WROTE TO ME ABOUT THAT

4 PAPER. ONE WAS BOB ORRILL. THE OTHER WAS BARBARA

5 STAFFORD, ART HISTORIAN AT THE UNIVERSITY OF

6 CHICAGO AND BOTH OF THEM MADE ME THINK DIFFERENTLY

7 ABOUT THE WAY I THOUGHT.

8 WHAT BOB SAID WAS DID YOU KNOW YOU'RE A

9 PRAGMATIST? AND I SAID NO I DIDN'T, BECAUSE I WENT

10 TO COLLEGE AT A PERIOD IN WHICH YOU COULDN'T READ

11 ANYTHING AMERICAN. IF YOU WEREN'T READING IN

12 GERMAN, YOU SIMPLY WEREN'T DOING ANYTHING SERIOUS.

13 SO I, UNDER BOB'S DIRECTION, STARTED READING DEWEY

14 AND ALL OF THOSE PRAGMATISTS AND DISCOVERED, IN

15 FACT, THAT THERE IS A LINEAGE THAT I WASN'T AWARE

16 OF. BUT IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT LINEAGE THAN THE ONE

17 THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AT THIS CONFERENCE.

18 AND IT'S ONE THAT OFFERS PERHAPS A DIFFERENT WAY OF

19 THINKING ABOUT PRAGMATISM AND LIBERAL EDUCATION.

20 FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, THE MEETING PLACE OF

21 PRAGMATISM AND LIBERAL EDUCATION WAS HULL-HOUSE,

22 NOT THE CITY OF CHICAGO AND NOT THE UNIVERSITY OF

23 CHICAGO. IT WAS THE DIALOGUE BETWEEN ROBERT PARK,

24 JANE ADDAMS, JOHN DEWEY, GEORGE HERBERT MEADE IN

25 HULL-HOUSE. I SAY THIS VERY SERIOUSLY. ALTHOUGH I



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1 WAS TRAINED AS A PHILOSOPHER AND TAUGHT POLITICAL

2 PHILOSOPHY, MY PRACTICE IS, AS A ETHNOGRAPHER AND

3 IT WAS OUT OF THE CHICAGO SCHOOL THAT STARTED IN

4 HULL-HOUSE THAT QUALITATIVE SOCIOLOGY OR

5 ETHNOGRAPHY HAVE DEVELOPED.

6 FROM JANE ADDAMS AND ROBERT PARK TO EVERETT

7 HUGHES, FROM HUGHES TO BARRY THORNE AND BARRY

8 THORNE WAS MY TEACHER. CONVENIENTLY SHE'S ALSO MY

9 WIFE, SO I'M ABLE TO BE CORRECTED IN MY PRACTICE OF

10 ETHNOGRAPHY. ETHNOGRAPHY I THINK IS ANOTHER ONE OF

11 THE LIBERAL ARTS. IT IS AN INDUCTIVE PRACTICE OF

12 MIND THAT COMES FROM LISTENING AND PARTICIPATING IN

13 THE WORLD IN A REFLECTIVE MANNER. IT'S AS AN

14 ETHNOGRAPHER THAT I'VE BEEN STUDYING TECHNOLOGY FOR

15 ABOUT 20 YEARS AND I REMEMBER DISTINCTLY HOW IT

16 BEGAN. I WAS WRITING A BOOK ON NICHA (sic) AT THE

17 UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA AS A VISITING PROFESSOR

18 AND DECIDED I NEEDED TO WRITE IT ON A COMPUTER, AND

19 I TOOK A COMPUTER CLASS IN SOMETHING CALLED EUNUCHS

20 WHICH UP TO THEN HAD BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH SERAGLIOS

21 IN MY MIND.

22 (Laughter.)

23 MR. LYMAN: AT THE END OF THE CLASS IN WHICH I

24 LEARNED TO HIT COMMAND BUTTONS AND CONTROL BUTTONS

25 AND KEEP, AS PAULA KNOWS, KEEP THE COMPUTER FROM



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1 CRASHING, HIT THE BREAK KEY AND THE ESCAPE KEY, AT

2 THE END OF IT I SAID TO THE WOMAN SITTING NEXT TO

3 ME, LET'S GO TO THE COMPUTER CENTER AND TRY THIS

4 OUT. AND SHE SAID TO ME, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND A

5 WORD THAT MAN SAID.

6 AND INSTEAD OF GOING TO THE COMPUTER CENTER I

7 STARTED INTERVIEWING HER ABOUT HOW IS IT POSSIBLE

8 THAT I COULD FEEL EMPOWERED AND INTRODUCED TO A NEW

9 MEDIUM OF COMMUNICATION AND SHE FELL EXCLUDED. AND

10 THERE BEGAN MY EXPLORATION OF TECHNOLOGY.

11 THE IMPORTANT CHANGE BETWEEN THE PAPER I WROTE

12 AT NICK'S CONFERENCE AND TODAY IS I WOULDN'T TALK

13 ABOUT TECHNOLOGY ANYMORE. I'M TALKING ABOUT

14 CYBERIA. I THINK IT IS CYBERIA THAT IS IMPORTANT

15 TO LIBERAL EDUCATION IN TWO ESSENCES THAT I WANT TO

16 TALK ABOUT TODAY.

17 THE FIRST IS CYBERIA REPRESENTS A PEDAGOGICAL

18 PRACTICE THAT I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT IN OUR

19 WORLD. AND THE SECOND IS THAT I THINK CYBERIA IS A

20 CULTURE CREATING PRACTICE. IT IS PERHAPS THE

21 CULTURE-CREATING PRACTICE THAT IS GOING TO DEFINE

22 THE NEXT CENTURY, AND I THINK DEFINE THE VERY TERMS

23 OF REFERENCE FOR LIBERAL EDUCATION.

24 I REALLY ENJOYED THE ELIOT HISTORY OF LIBERAL

25 EDUCATION AND ESPECIALLY THE UNDERSTANDING OF



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1 INTRODUCTION OF GREEK INTO THE CURRICULUM AS A WAY

2 OF RETURNING TO THE ANCIENTS, AS A WAY OF RENEWING

3 A SENSE OF THE LIFE WORLD AND AS A CRITIQUE OF

4 SCHOLASTICISM.

5 THE STRONG VERSION OF WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY

6 TODAY IS I THINK THE INTRODUCTION OF TECHNOLOGY OR

7 CYBERIA INTO THE LIBERAL EDUCATION MAY HAVE THE

8 SAME KIND OF IMPACT THAT THE INTRODUCTION OF GREEK

9 HAD.

10 SO I'LL GIVE TWO DEFINITIONS OF CYBERIA, THE

11 FIRST ETHNOGRAPHIC AND THE SECOND MORE

12 PHILOSOPHICAL. CYBERIA -- AND IT READS BETTER THAN

13 IT TALKS. WELL, MAYBE THAT DEPENDS ON YOUR

14 ATTITUDE TOWARDS TECHNOLOGY. CYBERIA IS -- THE WAY

15 I'VE LEARNED TO TALK ABOUT TECHNOLOGY FROM ARTURO

16 ESCOBAR WHO HAS AN ARTICLE IN THE AMERICAN

17 ANTHROPOLOGIST LAST YEAR CALLED WELCOME TO CYBERIA.

18 IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT'S NOT MACHINES WE'RE TALKING

19 ABOUT. IT'S THAT WHICH IS STRUCTURING THE WAY WE

20 COMMUNICATE AND THINK.

21 AS AN ETHNOGRAPHER IT IS FUNDAMENTAL TO ME

22 THAT THE PEOPLE WHO COMMUNICATE IN CYBERIA

23 EXPERIENCE IT AS A PLACE. AND IT'S A PLACE THAT IS

24 COSMOPOLITAN. IT IS GLOBAL IN SCOPE AND YET

25 INTIMATE. IT'S EXPERIENCED AS A COMMUNITY BY THOSE



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1 WHO USE IT, AND I WOULD SAY ALMOST AS A PUBLIC

2 SPACE. I'LL EXPLORE THOSE EXPERIENCES FIRST.

3 BUT I WANT TO SUGGEST WHAT I THINK IS AT

4 STAKE. IN INTERESTING WAYS IT RESONATES WITH THE

5 DESCRIPTION OF BIOLOGY THAT YOU JUST HEARD BECAUSE

6 CYBERIA INCLUDES NOT JUST INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY

7 AND COMPUTERS. IT INCLUDES BIOLOGICAL TECHNOLOGY

8 AS WELL. WHAT THEY HAVE IN COMMON IS THE

9 INTERPRETATION OF THE WORLD AS INFORMATION SYSTEMS

10 AND THE RE-ENGINEERING OF THE WORLD AS INFORMATION

11 SYSTEMS.

12 HERE'S HOW ESCOBAR DEFINES CYBERIA. HE SAYS:

13 SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN THE NATURE OF SOCIAL LIFE

14 ARE BEING BROUGHT ABOUT BY COMPUTERS, INFORMATION,

15 TECHNOLOGY AND BIOLOGICAL TECHNOLOGY TO THE EXTENT

16 THAT SOME ARGUE THE NEW CULTURAL ORDER,

17 CYBERCULTURE, IS COMING INTO BEING. THAT I THINK

18 IS THE SERIOUS INTELLECTUAL QUESTION ABOUT THE

19 FUTURE OF LIBERAL EDUCATION THAT I'D LIKE TO

20 DISCUSS SECONDLY.

21 WELL, LET ME DESCRIBE CYBERIA. I'M GOING TO

22 DESCRIBE IT I THINK ON THE MODEL OF JANE ADDAMS.

23 SOMEBODY I ACTUALLY ENJOYED MORE THAN ANY OF THE

24 OTHER AT THE ASSIGNED READINGS THAT BOB MADE. THE

25 METHODOLOGY OF ETHNOGRAPHIC AS I SAID, CAME FROM



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1 HULL-HOUSE. BUT ALSO THERE WAS AN ACTIVITY OUT OF

2 HULL-HOUSE CALLED COMMUNITY MAPPING IN WHICH THE

3 RESIDENTS OF HULL-HOUSE WHO WERE BOTH ACADEMICS AND

4 PEOPLE ESSENTIALLY LIVING IN A ROOMING HOUSE WOULD

5 TRY TO MAP THE EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES OF A COMMUNITY

6 AND GO OUT AND EXPLORE IT. THAT IS, I'M NOT GOING

7 TO TRY TO DESCRIBE CYBERIA ENTIRELY OR FROM ALL

8 POINTS OF VIEW. I'M GOING TO TRY TO EXPLORE IT AS

9 AN EDUCATIONAL RESOURCE. THAT MEANS I'M GOING TO

10 LEAVE OUT A LOT OF CRITICAL THINGS THAT I WOULD

11 NORMALLY SAY ABOUT TECHNOLOGY.

12 THERE'S FOUR CHARACTERISTICS THAT EXPLORERS IN

13 THIS NEW WORLD THAT HAVE REPORTED THAT I THINK ARE

14 VERY SIGNIFICANT FOR OUR PEDAGOGICAL PRACTICE. THE

15 FIRST IS A NEW SENSE OF SELF AND COMMUNITY. IT IS

16 EASY IF YOU LOOK AT TECHNOLOGY FROM THE OUTSIDE TO

17 DESCRIBE THIS AS A SELF OBJECT OR MACHINE-MAN

18 RELATIONSHIP. IT IS EASY TO DESCRIBE THIS FROM THE

19 OUTSIDE IN TERMS OF ISOLATION, OF INDIVIDUAL AND

20 COMPUTER.

21 BUT WHEN YOU TALK TO PEOPLE WHO USE COMPUTERS,

22 WHAT'S SO STRIKING IS THEIR SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND

23 EMOTIONAL ENGAGEMENT. SHERRY TURKLE (ph) IN THE

24 SECOND SELF AND IN HER SUBSEQUENT BOOKS HAS BEEN

25 THE ONE WHO TALKS ABOUT COMPUTERS AND THE



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1 RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN PEOPLE AND COMPUTERS AS

2 DERIVED FROM THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN CHILDREN AND

3 TOYS, WHICH IS TO SAY THERE IS A RELATIONSHIP WITH

4 THINGS THAT ENGAGES THE EMOTIONS THAT STIMULATES

5 PLAY IN A WAY THAT LEADS TO INTELLECTUAL AND

6 EMOTIONAL DEVELOPMENT.

7 AT FIRST WE MIGHT WANT TO REJECT THIS AND SAY

8 THAT THINGS, THAT TECHNOLOGIES CAN'T HAVE THAT

9 IMPACT AND YET WE KNOW THEY DO. THE TELEPHONE, THE

10 FAX, THE COPY MACHINE, THE PRINTING PRESS, ALL

11 TECHNOLOGIES THAT ENHANCE OR MAKE POSSIBLE A SENSE

12 OF COMMUNITY. BUT THERE'S AN EVEN STRONGER SENSE

13 HERE THAT THERE IS A SPECIAL KIND OF ENGAGEMENT.

14 IT'S NOT EXACTLY LIKE A CONVERSATION WITH ANOTHER

15 PERSON, BUT IT IS LIKE A CONVERSATION WITH AN

16 OTHER, AN OTHER INTELLIGENCE.

17 THIS HAS LED TO VERY INTERESTING THINGS IN

18 DISCUSSIONS OF WORK. SHOSHANA ZULOFF AT HARVARD

19 DESCRIBES THE WORK WORLD OF THE FUTURE AS ONE --

20 SHE USES THE WORD INFORMATED (sic), ONE IN WHICH

21 THE AVERAGE WORKER WILL HAVE TO MAKE JUDGMENTS

22 ABOUT THE QUALITY OF INFORMATION, THAT WORK WILL

23 NOT BE ROUTINE, THAT WORK WILL BE HIGHLY

24 CUSTOMIZED, HIGHLY INTERACTIVE AND PETER DRUCKER

25 HAS SAID THAT THE PROBLEM OF MANAGEMENT IN THE 20TH



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1 CENTURY WAS THE PRODUCTIVITY OF MANUAL LABOR. THE

2 PROBLEM OF MANAGEMENT IN THE 21ST CENTURY WILL BE

3 THE PRODUCTIVITY OF MENTAL LABORERS OR, I THINK

4 VERY CLOSE TO WHAT THE SHOWMAN WAS CALLING

5 PROFESSIONALS, PEOPLE WHO WORK WITH EXPERT

6 KNOWLEDGE. THAT IS, IN A DISCUSSION OF THE

7 WORKPLACE AND THE CONCEPTION OF WORK, WE'RE NO

8 LONGER TALKING ABOUT AN ADAM SMITH SORT OF

9 MANUFACTURING SCENARIO OF ROOTENIZED (sic)

10 MECHANICAL AUTOMATED PRODUCTION. WE'RE TALKING

11 ABOUT JUDGMENT, ABOUT APPLICATION OF EXPERTISE,

12 ABOUT CHOICE.

13 JUST ONE MORE COMMENT ON THE SENSE OF

14 COMMUNITY. A GRADUATE STUDENT OF MINE IS TRYING TO

15 USE THIS SENSE OF COMMUNITY IN NETWORKED

16 ENVIRONMENTS TO ENCOURAGE DISCUSSION IN CLASS AND

17 HAS DISCOVERED THAT THE VERY SENSE OF ANONYMITY IS

18 SOMETHING THAT PROMOTES DISCUSSION, THAT THE VERY

19 STUDENTS WHO WILL NOT TALK IN CLASS ARE THE ONES

20 WHO, BY VIRTUE OF THE PRIVACY OF COMPUTER MEDIATED

21 COMMUNICATION, WILL PARTICIPATE, BY VIRTUE OF ROLE

22 PLAYING, OF BEING ABLE TO CREATE A NEW PERSONA FOR

23 THEMSELVES. THAT'S WHY SHERRY TURKLE CALLS THIS A

24 NEW KIND OF PRIVATE SPACE AND NOT THE KIND OF

25 ANONYMOUS SPACE THAT WE HAD FIRST THOUGHT



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1 TECHNOLOGY MIGHT BE.

2 A SECOND CHARACTERISTIC OF CYBERIA THAT I

3 THINK IS FASCINATING, IT'S A NEW MODE OF WRITING.

4 AND AS WE HEARD THIS MORNING AND SEVERAL OTHER

5 TIMES IN THIS CONFERENCE -- MANY HISTORIANS OF

6 WRITING ARE TRACING HYPERTEXT AND OTHER KINDS OF

7 COLLECTIVE AND COLLABORATIVE WRITING BACK TO

8 MEDIEVAL TRADITIONS OF WRITING. THESE NEW

9 RHETORICAL FORMS AND GENRES ARE VERY INTERESTING TO

10 ME BECAUSE THEY ARE ORGANIZED WITHOUT AUTHORITY

11 STRUCTURES. THEY ARE RHETORICAL FORMS AND GENRES

12 DESIGNED FOR READERS.

13 IN SOME SENSE THERE ARE NO AUTHORS IN CYBERIA

14 BECAUSE THERE IS NO AUTHORITY BECAUSE THE READER

15 SHAPES THE TEXT, THE READER CHOOSES THE ORDER OF

16 THE TEXT. IT'S A WORLD ORGANIZED BY READERS, NOT

17 AUTHORS OR PUBLISHERS. IT'S A WORLD IN WHICH

18 EVERYBODY CAN PRODUCE LITERATURE WHICH IS

19 DISTRIBUTED GLOBALLLY.

20 MY DAUGHTER, HER FIRST YEAR AT BRYN MAWR FELT

21 IT NECESSARY NOT ONLY TO WRITE A PAPER ON THE

22 CITYSCAPE OF PHILADELPHIA, BUT TO PUBLISH IT

23 WORLDWIDE ON HER OWN WEB PAGE. I RECOMMEND IT

24 HIGHLY TO ALL OF YOU. AND, IN FACT, I'M ENGAGED IN

25 A PROJECT RIGHT NOW WITH BRUCE STERCALE (sic), THE



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1 INVENTER OF WAYS WHICH IS THE TECHNOLOGY BEHIND

2 ELECTRONIC PUBLISHING. WE HAVE JUST ARCHIVED THE

3 WEB BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO DO A DEMOGRAPHY OF IT.

4 THERE ARE 60 MILLION WEB PAGES AND THEY ARE

5 INCREASING AT THE RATE OF TWO MILLION A MONTH.

6 WELL, THAT WILL -- WHY? WHAT IS THIS -- WHAT IS

7 THIS? IT'S A MODE OF COMMUNICATION.

8 MANY PEOPLE, RICHARD LATTAM, MANY PEOPLE IN

9 RHETORIC HAVE TALKED ABOUT THESE NEW GENRES AS

10 STRUCTURES OF ATTENTION, IN A WORLD IN WHICH

11 INFORMATION IS NOT SCARCE, IN WHICH OUR CORE

12 PROBLEM IS NOT FINDING KNOWLEDGE. IT'S THROWING

13 AWAY KNOWLEDGE BECAUSE WE'RE ALL SATURATED WITH

14 KNOWLEDGE. SO THE NEW CYBERNETIC STRUCTURES OF

15 ATTENTION HAVE TO DO WITH A SELECTIVITY, JUDGMENT.

16 A THIRD -- AT THE END OF MY PAPER ON

17 TECHNOLOGY AND LIBERAL EDUCATION I SUGGESTED THAT

18 ONE OF THE BRIDGES BETWEEN TECHNOLOGY AND LIBERAL

19 EDUCATION WAS AESTHETICS AND AESTHETIC PRACTICE,

20 AESTHETIC EDUCATION. THAT'S WHERE I GOT THE LETTER

21 FROM BARBARA STAFFORD SAYING LOOKING INTO THE

22 NATURE OF MULTI MEDIA THAT AS A NEW COMMUNICATIONS

23 MEDIUM I THINK THE MOST DRAMATIC CHARACTERISTIC OF

24 CYBERIA IS THAT IT'S A VISUAL MEDIUM AND THIS IS

25 BOTH ATTRACTIVE AND DANGEROUS. IT'S ATTRACTIVE



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1 BECAUSE AS A VISUAL MEDIUM -- AND I PERSONALLY

2 DON'T BELIEVE YOU SEE TEXT ON THE SCREEN. I THINK

3 YOU SEE A VISUAL IMAGE OF A TEXT AND IT'S MUCH

4 CLOSER TO A VISUAL MEDIUM THAN TO A PRINT MEDIUM I

5 BELIEVE -- HAS THE SAME CAPACITY FOR EMOTIONAL

6 ENGAGEMENT AS OTHER VARIABLE MEDIA.

7 OUR PROBLEM IS THAT IN OUR CULTURE VISUAL

8 MEDIA ARE LINKED TO ENTERTAINMENT AND ENTERTAINMENT

9 IS LINKED TO THE VENDOR IN ENJOINING FUN AND HAVING

10 PLAY.

11 CAN A VISUAL MEANING BE TIED TO CRITICAL

12 LIBERAL EDUCATION? WHAT SHE SAID IS -- SHE A

13 SCHOLAR OF PUBLIC ART IN 18TH CENTURY -- SHE SAYS

14 HISTORICALLY ART HAS HAD A PUBLIC FUNCTION. AND

15 WHAT WE LACK RIGHT NOW IS A LINK BETWEEN VISUAL

16 CULTURE AND WHAT SHE CALLS PUBLIC CONCERNS AND

17 VISUAL CULTURES. THAT IS TREATING VISUAL CULTURE

18 PART OF A PUBLIC WORLD RATHER THAN PART OF A

19 PRIVATE WORLD OF CONSUMPTION. FOR THIS REASON I'M

20 GOING TO NASHVILLE TO MEET WITH THE 18TH CENTURY

21 ART HISTORIANS BECAUSE THEY REALLY HAVE SOME

22 INSIGHT INTO MULTI MEDIUM.

23 IN TERMS OF EDUCATION, I THINK THE EXCITING

24 PART ABOUT MULTI MEDIA COMES OUT OF OR IS SUGGESTED

25 BY THE WORK OF HOWARD GARDENER ABOUT LEARNING



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1 STYLES, THAT ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE CLASSROOM

2 IS WE USUALLY DON'T TOLERATE LEARNING STYLES THAT

3 DON'T MAP TO OUR OWN. ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS

4 ABOUT LIBRARIES IS THERE'S AN INTELLECTUAL FREEDOM

5 IN WHICH STUDENTS CAN CHOOSE THE LEARNING STYLE

6 APPROPRIATE. THE PROMISE OF MULTI MEDIA FOR THE

7 CLASSROOM IS LETTING STUDENTS CHOOSE THE MODE OF

8 LEARNING, ESPECIALLY I THINK IN LEARNING CALCULUS

9 IN WHICH PEOPLE CAN CHOOSE OR LINK A VISUAL

10 REPRESENTATION OF CALCULUS, CALCULUS AS EQUATION,

11 AS A TEXTUAL EQUATION OF CALCULUS. THAT IS

12 SIGNIFICANT CHOICES IN STYLES OF LEARNING.

13 A FOURTH CHARACTERISTIC OF CYBERIA THAT I

14 THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT IS PARTICIPATION. IT'S

15 THAT THAT I THINK IS THE PROBLEM STUDENTS HAVE WITH

16 EDUCATION IS ITS PASSIVITY, IS ITS CONTROL. AS I

17 TRIED TO SUGGEST YESTERDAY, THERE PASSIVITY, THIS

18 INSTRUMENTAL APPROACH TO EDUCATION, THIS

19 FRAGMENTATION OF EDUCATION HAS HAD A REAL UTILITY

20 IN INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING SOCIETY AND I DOUBT

21 THAT IT DOES IN THE FUTURE. THE PARTICIPATION IS

22 EGALITARIAN. IT'S ACTIVE AND TO -- ME AND THIS

23 COMES BACK TO SOME THINGS ELIZABETH WAS TALKING

24 ABOUT THE OTHER DAY, WHEN I LOOK AT WHAT ARE THOSE

25 WEB PAGES, THE BEST, OF COURSE, ARE THE ONES



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1 PRODUCED BY MY DAUGHTER. BUT MANY OF THEM ARE THE

2 LITERATURE OF SOCIAL MOVEMENTS. GREENPEACE, A

3 GLOBAL POLITICAL MOVEMENT, IS BASED UPON WEB

4 COMMUNICATIONS. ACT UP L.A. IS BASED ON WEB

5 COMMUNICATIONS. THE LIBERATION OF CENTRAL AND

6 EASTERN EUROPE, COMMUNICATION THROUGH THE WEB. I

7 JUST GAVE A SPEECH IN BEJING ABOUT BUILDING A

8 NATIONWIDE NETWORK DIGITAL LIBRARY. THEY CANNOT DO

9 THAT BECAUSE THAT WOULD INVOLVE DESCENT AND

10 COMMUNICATION OF DESCENT.

11 THIS IS A MEDIUM FOR SOCIAL MOVEMENTS I THINK

12 AS A POLITICAL SPACE. AND IT'S WORTH NOTING AND

13 THIS IS SOMETHING I THINK ABOUT A LOT, THAT THE WEB

14 IS A SOCIAL INSTITUTION CREATED WITHOUT GOVERNMENT,

15 WITHOUT THE AUTHORITY OF GOVERNMENT, WITHOUT THE

16 REGULATION OF GOVERNMENT. AND ONE OF THE

17 FASCINATING THINGS ABOUT AMERICAN INFORMATION

18 POLICY IS IT'S TRY TO RETROACTIVELY AND

19 RETROSPECTIVELY ASSERT GOVERNMENT CONTROL OVER

20 SOMETHING THAT IS WAY OUT OF CONTROL.

21 I'D LIKE TO TURN NOW -- JUST A BRIEF

22 DESCRIPTION OF THE FOUR ASPECTS OF CYBERIA THAT I

23 THINK ARE INTERESTING. AS AN ETHNOGRAPHER I'VE

24 BEEN TALKING TO THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN CREATING

25 THESE TECHNOLOGIES FOR THE LAST 16 OR 17 YEARS.



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1 THIS IS NOT AN ACCIDENT. THE WEB IS NOT AN

2 ACCIDENT. IT IS NOT A TECHNOLOGICAL INVASION. IN

3 THE MINDS OF MOST ITS INVENTORS, IT'S A PEDAGOGICAL

4 INVASION.

5 IT'S DELIBERATELY A CRITIQUE AND IS INTENDED

6 BY SUCH AND IS BY AND LARGE BY COLLEGE DROP-OUTS,

7 STEVE WASNIAK, BILL GATES. IT IS PROBLEM-SOLVING

8 ORIENTED, IT IS COLLABORATIVE, IT IS LEARNER

9 CENTERED, IT IS BASED UPON THE ITERATIVE METHOD

10 RATHER THAN A MORAL DISTINCTION BETWEEN GETTING

11 SOMETHING RIGHT AND GETTING SOMETHING WRONG AND IT

12 IS COSMOPOLITAN.

13 WHERE DID IT COME FROM? I'D LIKE TO SAY

14 PRAGMATISM, BUT THAT'S NOT WHERE IT CAME FROM. IT

15 CAME FROM THREE THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, IT CAME FROM

16 AN AMERICAN TRADITION CALLED TINKERING IN THE

17 WORLD -- WORDS OF CHARLES KETTERING. IT'S A

18 TRADITION OF INVENTION. IT COMES FROM SCIENTIFIC

19 RESEARCH, MOST OF THIS TECHNOLOGY WAS INVENTED FOR

20 COLLABORATIVE SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH. THE PREVIOUS

21 TECHNOLOGY, THE COMPUTER BRAIN, THE CENTRAL

22 MAINFRAME AND THE DUMB TERMINAL WAS CREATED FOR

23 CYBERNETIC CONTROL IN THE ARMY AND NAVY AND IN

24 CORPORATIONS. BUT THE NETWORK TECHNOLOGY WAS

25 CREATED BY SCIENTISTS TO ENABLE THEIR OWN



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1 COMMUNICATION AS EQUALS.

2 THIRDLY, IT WAS CREATED BY SOCIAL MOVEMENTS.

3 IF YOU INTERVIEW THE PEOPLE WHO INVENTED PERSONAL

4 COMPUTERS, ALMOST EVERY ONE OF THEM CAME OUT OF A

5 SOCIAL MOVEMENT. IN ONE CASE OUT OF THE DIGGERS IN

6 HAITE-ASBURY, THE GUY WHO DESIGNED THE OSBORNE. IT

7 WAS A RADICALLY EGALITARIAN POLITICAL VALUE.

8 WE'D LIKE TO TURN TO AN EXPLANATION OF CYBERIA

9 FROM A SECOND POINT OF VIEW TO SAY IT IS NOT AN

10 ACCIDENT THAT THIS TECHNOLOGY OF DEMOCRATIC

11 COMMUNICATION CAME OUT OF SUCH A POLITICAL AND

12 SOCIAL INTENT. ALL TECHNOLOGY DOES -- AND MY

13 FAVORITE WAY OF THINKING ABOUT THIS IS THE WORLD

14 INFORMATION IS A SCHOLASTIC WORD. AND IT CAME OUT

15 OF THE MONASTIC SCHOOLS AND IT HAD TO DO WITH

16 IN-FORM-ING, DRILLING INTO THE MIND THE FORMS OF

17 THOUGHT. IT WAS A DELIBERATE LEGISLATION OF HABITS

18 OF MIND AND PRACTICES OF MIND AND IT STILL IS.

19 WELL, THE THING THAT'S DIFFERENT TODAY ABOUT

20 THIS TECHNOLOGY THAT MAKES ME THINK CYBERIA MAY BE

21 CHANGING THE TERMS OF LIBERAL EDUCATION IS THAT IT

22 IS RE-ENGINEERING NOT THE WORLD BUT US, OUR SENSE

23 OF SELF, OUR SENSE OF WHAT A MIND IS AND OUR

24 BODIES. AND I MEAN THAT IN THE STRONGEST POSSIBLE

25 TERM.



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1 I'M THINKING IN PARTICULAR OF BIOTECHNOLOGY.

2 BIOTECHNOLOGY, WHICH UNDERSTANDS LIFE ITSELF, IS AN

3 INFORMATION SYSTEM BASED ON DNA WHICH CAN BE

4 REENGINEERED. IT'S SUBJECT TO CYBERNETIC COMMAND

5 AND CONTROL, THAT MIND AS A PHARMACOLOGICAL OR

6 PSYCHOPHARMACOLOGICAL FACT. I KEPT THINKING, I

7 THINK, THEREFORE, I AM. I'M ON PROZAC, THEREFORE,

8 I AM, I'M ON RITALIN, THEREFORE I AM.

9 WHAT IS MIND? IS LIBERAL EDUCATION A

10 SEROTONIN LEVEL IN THE BRAIN? SO WE CAN NO LONGER

11 ASSUME THAT PERCEPTION IS A GIVEN OR THAT WE ARE AS

12 GIVEN. IT IS A SUBJECT FOR ENGINEERING. I THINK A

13 LOT ABOUT CHILDREN ESPECIALLY AND THE DEFINITION OF

14 LEARNING DISABILITY AND THE MEDICALIZATION OF

15 EDUCATION AND THE MASS USE OF RITALIN AND OTHER

16 DRUGS IN THE NAME OF EDUCATION. I CAN'T HELP BUT

17 WONDER IF THAT DOESN'T HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH

18 SOCIAL CONTROL.

19 THE GROWTH INDUSTRY IN CALIFORNIA IS NOT

20 COMPUTERS. IT IS BIOTECHNOLOGY, AND THE GOAL OF

21 BIOTECHNOLOGY IS TO SEE DISEASE AS INFORMATION AS A

22 DATA ERA AND SOMETHING CORRECTABLE. AND ALREADY

23 THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT EXPERIMENTS WITH REVERSE

24 ENGINEERING GENETIC DEFECTS.

25 SO I THINK THIS SUGGESTS A NEW CORE QUESTION.



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1 AND THE NEW CORE QUESTION THAT I THINK IS GOING TO

2 BE AT THE CORE OF AN EDUCATION IS NOT WHAT IS THE

3 GOOD LIFE, BUT WHAT IS HEALTH. AND I FOUND IT VERY

4 INTERESTING IN OUR CONFERENCE AND IN OUR VERY FIRST

5 SPEECH, DNA WAS MENTIONED METAPHORICALLY AS A

6 METAPHOR FOR LIBERAL EDUCATION. AND CHARLES

7 ANDERSON, IN FACT, RAISED THIS QUESTION, WHAT IS

8 HEALTH AS A CORE QUESTION OF LIBERAL EDUCATION YET.

9 I HOPE IT WASN'T AN ACCIDENT.

10 SO LIFE ITSELF, THE HUMAN BODY ITSELF, THE

11 MIND ITSELF, THE SENSE OF SELF ITSELF IS ALL

12 SUBJECT TO ENGINEERING. WELL, ON WHAT TERMS? THIS

13 STRIKES ME AS A CORE QUESTION OF THE -- OF

14 EDUCATION.

15 I WANT TO SAY ONE MORE THING ABOUT THIS. THE

16 JOY OF BEING A UNIVERSITY LIBRARIAN IS I'M JUST

17 FORCED TO LEARN ABOUT THE RESEARCH OF THE PEOPLE IN

18 THE UNIVERSITY AND I'VE LEARNED ABOUT BIOTECHNOLOGY

19 IN THE LAST YEAR IN WHICH OUR ENTIRE CURRICULUM HAS

20 BEEN COMPLETELY REORGANIZED. BOTANY IS GONE,

21 ZOOLOGY IS GONE, EVEN MOLECULAR BIOLOGY IS GONE.

22 NOW IT'S NEUROSCIENCE, MY BIOLOGY, INNOVATIVE

23 SCIENCE AND SO FORTH. ARISTOTLE IS OVER.

24 SO I THINK THIS QUESTION, WHAT IS HEALTH, IS A

25 QUESTION IN WHICH BIOTECHNOLOGY AND LIBERAL



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1 EDUCATION MIGHT MEET AROUND THAT QUESTION AND THAT

2 OUR STUDENTS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE PREPARED TO

3 DEAL WITH THAT QUESTION IN EVERY ASPECT OF THEIR

4 LIVES. ON INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY YESTERDAY I SAID

5 THAT IT BOTHERS ME THAT SO MANY OF OUR VISIONS OF

6 LIBERAL EDUCATION ARE TRAGIC. TRAGIC VIEWS, AND BY

7 THAT I MEANT AND SHOULD HAVE EXPLAINED THEY'RE

8 TRAGIC IF WE CAN'T LINK A VISION OF AN IDEAL TO THE

9 SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC CONTEXT IN WHICH LIBERAL

10 EDUCATION OCCURS AND TO STRATEGIES FOR

11 ORGANIZATIONAL CHANGE AND RENEWAL.

12 I'D HAVE TO SAY THAT INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY

13 AND EDUCATION IN CYBERIA IS COMIC IN CONTRAST IN

14 THAT YET FABULOUSLY EXPENSIVE TECHNOLOGY IS BEING

15 USED FOR, IN SERVICE OF, ENTERTAINMENT, THAT

16 ESSENTIALLY THE GAME OR PLAYING GAMES IS THE MODEL

17 VISION OF AN EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE FOR WHICH

18 BILLIONS OF DOLLARS ARE BEING INVESTED.

19 SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF SUGGESTIONS ABOUT THE

20 QUESTIONS IN WHICH CYBERIA AND LIBERAL EDUCATION

21 MIGHT MEET AROUND INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. THE

22 FIRST IS THE ONE BARBARA STAFFORD SUGGESTED WHICH

23 IS CAN VISUAL CULTURE, CAN MULTI-MEDIA BE LINKED TO

24 COMMON CONCERNS AND PUBLIC RITUALS, THAT IS, IS

25 THERE A POSSIBILITY OF A PUBLIC LIFE AND A COMMON



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1 LIFE BASED UPON VISUAL CULTURE THAT IS GENUINELY

2 EDUCATIONAL AND GENUINELY POLITICAL IN THE SENSE

3 THAT ELIZABETH DEFINED THE OTHER YESTERDAY. OUR

4 NATIONAL INFORMATION POLICY IS BEING DRIVEN BY

5 DISNEY AND BY ENTERTAINMENT TECHNOLOGY, NOT BY

6 THESE QUESTIONS OF -- WE KNOW ALMOST NOTHING ABOUT

7 EDUCATIONAL OUTCOMES.

8 SECONDLY, I THINK THE QUESTION OF -- THE KEY

9 QUESTION FOR US ESPECIALLY FOLLOWING THE LINE OF

10 THOUGHT OF SHOSHANA ZULOFF AND PETER DRUCKER HAS TO

11 DO WITH THE QUALITY OF INFORMATION. I LOVE LEE

12 SHULMAN'S SPEECH -- I TAUGHT AT A LIBERAL ARTS

13 COLLEGE AT MICHIGAN STATE FOR 18 YEARS AT THE SAME

14 TIME THAT LEE WAS CREATING THE INSTITUTE FOR

15 RESEARCH ON TEACHING AND WORKING IN THE MEDICAL

16 SCHOOL. IT WAS A WONDERFUL TIME, BUT I'M NOT SURE

17 IF THAT -- IF THE ROLES OF LEE'S ARGUMENT, THEORY

18 AND PRACTICE, ACADEME AND PROFESSION, IF THAT'S A

19 VIABLE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN A WORLD

20 IN WHICH INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY DISTRIBUTES

21 INFORMATION EVERYWHERE AND WHICH THE QUESTIONS THAT

22 ARE DRIVING RESEARCH, ESPECIALLY IN THE AREAS OF

23 COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY AND BIOTECHNOLOGY ARE COMING

24 FROM THE FIELD. THAT IS THE IDEA OF THEORY THAT

25 THEORY AND PRACTICE IS DESCRIBED BY UNIVERSITY OR



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1 COLLEGE AND PROFESSION OR BUSINESS, I THINK IS AN

2 INSTITUTIONAL ARRANGEMENT THAT'S OVER, THAT THIS

3 COMMUNICATION MEDIUM IS SO UBIQUITOUS THAT THEORY

4 IS EVERYWHERE AND PRACTICE IS EVERYWHERE OR IT

5 BETTER BE, WE BETTER BE EDUCATING.

6 AS A LIBRARIAN IT OCCURS TO ME EVERY DAY THAT

7 WE ARE ASKING PEOPLE TO MAKE JUDGMENTS ABOUT THE

8 QUALITY OF INFORMATION IN CYBERIA AND WE ARE NOT

9 TEACHING THEM HOW TO DO THAT. WE'RE TEACHING

10 PEOPLE HOW TO BE FUNCTIONAL IN THE 18TH CENTURY,

11 NOT IN THE 20TH CENTURY.

12 JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, HOW WRONG DOES A GROCERY

13 STORE CHECK-OUT, LASER BAR CODE CHECK-OUT SCAN HAVE

14 TO BE BEFORE YOU WILL QUESTION IT? AND THE SOCIAL

15 SCIENCE HAS BEEN DONE ON THAT. THE SOCIAL SCIENCE

16 SAYS IT HAS TO BE TWICE WHAT YOU MEANT TO PAY

17 BEFORE MOST OF YOU WILL SAY, EXCUSE ME, ARE HERSHEY

18 BARS $4.36 NOW?

19 MANY DECISIONS ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE

20 INFORMATION UPON WHICH WE ACT ARE FACING US EVERY

21 DAY AND OFTEN IN THE FORM OF VISUAL CULTURES --

22 JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE, JURASSIC PARK. WHAT'S THE

23 PROVIDENCE OF THE CHILDREN AND WHAT'S THE

24 PROVIDENCE OF THE DINOSAURS AND WHICH IS REAL AND

25 HOW DO WE MAKE THOSE JUDGMENTS.



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1 SO I THINK THIS ISSUE OF THE QUALITY OF

2 INFORMATION IS AT THE HEART OF WHAT A LIBERAL

3 EDUCATION IS. IT IS THE MOST VITAL QUESTION FOR

4 OUR STUDENTS AND US LIVING IN CYBERIA. I THINK

5 WE'RE LARGELY UNPREPARED TO MAKE THOSE JUDGMENTS.

6 I THINK THERE'S A THIRD THEME, WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF

7 TIME, ON WHAT POLITICAL PARTICIPATION MEANS WHEN

8 YOU CAN BE IN DAILY DIALOGUE WITH PEOPLE ANYWHERE

9 ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

10 STEPHEN TOLMAN (ph) HAS SUGGESTED THAT THE

11 CONCEPT, THAT THE STATE IS GOING TO WITHER AWAY --

12 FINALLY. AND THAT ETHNIC GROUPS, AFFINITY GROUPS,

13 EDUCATIONAL GROUPS WILL BE GLOBAL IN SCALE AND HE

14 POINTS TO THE MIGRATION OF PEOPLE BACK AND FORTH

15 ACROSS NATIONAL BOUNDARIES, NOT TO MENTION MONEY.

16 I THINK THE CONCEPT OF POLITICAL PARTICIPATION WILL

17 CHANGE IN CYBERIA.

18 I WANTED TO CLOSE WITH SOMETHING I FOUND IN

19 DIANE LITTLEBROOK (sic), PRAGMATISM AND FEMINISM,

20 REWEAVING (inaudible.) THERE'S THIS QUOTE THAT

21 REALLY GUIDES ME IN THINKING ABOUT CYBERIA. SHE

22 SAYS THAT OUR GOAL IS TO CREATE A PRAGMATIST

23 HERMENEUTIES OF COOPERATION AS CALLED FOR BY JANE

24 ADDAMS AND WILLIAMS JAMES. IF THERE IS A GOAL FOR

25 CYBERIA THAT I WOULD WANT US TO ASSERT, IT IS TO



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1 USE IT AND TURN IT INTO AND MAKE IT CAPABLE OF

2 SUPPORTING COMMUNITY-BASED THEORIES OF INQUIRY.

3 THANK YOU.

4 MS. BORNSTEIN: THANK YOU PETER SO VERY MUCH.

5 I'M TOLD WE COULD HAVE TIME FOR MAYBE TWO

6 QUESTIONS. SO PLEASE DO. MAYBE IF WE CAN HAVE THE

7 MICROPHONES DOWN THERE

8 PROFESSOR STRAIT: DAN STRAIT FROM PALM BEACH

9 ATLANTIC COLLEGE. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR PROFESSOR

10 LYMAN. I FIRST HAVE TO ADMIT THAT I USE COMPUTERS,

11 I OWN A COMPUTER, I HAVE A COUPLE OF E-MAIL

12 ADDRESSES AND SO ON. SO I'M FULLY INITIATED INTO

13 THE WORLD OF CYBERSPACE, CYBERIA. BUT I JUST WANT

14 TO WORK THROUGH A COUPLE VERY QUICK POINTS AND ASK

15 YOU A QUESTION THAT RELATES TO YOUR LAST POINT. I

16 WORRY ABOUT TALKING ABOUT, FOR INSTANCE, OR HEARING

17 SOMEBODY TALK ABOUT A PERSONAL GOD IF THEY NEVER

18 MENTION HIS OR HER RELATIONSHIP TO HIS OR HER

19 NEIGHBOR, IN OTHER WORDS, IF THEY SPIRITUALIZE

20 THEIR FAITH SO MUCH THAT THEY FORGET ABOUT THE

21 PERSON THEY LIVE NEXT TO AND, THAT IS, THEY PUT

22 THIS DISTANCE BETWEEN THE MATERIAL AND THE

23 SPIRITUAL. IN THE SAME WAY I WORRY ABOUT, FOR

24 INSTANCE, GOING TO THE SUPERMARKET IF IT CAUSES ME

25 TO FORGET ABOUT THE FARM OR THE LAND OR THE ABILITY



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1 THAT I HAVE TO GROW A TOMATO, FOR INSTANCE, IN MY

2 CERAMIC POT BEHIND MY TOWNHOME.

3 IN THE SAME WAY I WORRY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A

4 MEMBER OF GREENPEACE WHO IS ON E-MAIL BUT WHO HAS

5 NEVER PLANTED A TREE. AND I SAY THIS BECAUSE I

6 NOTICED EVEN AMONG MY OWN STUDENTS A GROWING

7 ESSENCE OF THE SEPARATION BETWEEN THEIR MATERIAL

8 REALITY, FOR INSTANCE, IN MY CLASS AND THE KIND OF

9 SPIRITUAL REALITY THAT THEY SEEM TO BE REALIZING IN

10 CYBERSPACE. LET'S FOR ARGUMENT'S SAKE SAY

11 CYBERSPACE IS A KIND OF SPIRITUAL PLACE, NOT

12 NECESSARILY RELIGIOUS, BUT THAT WHICH IS REMOVED

13 FROM THE MATERIAL.

14 I WANT YOU TO, IF YOU CAN -- BECAUSE I'M

15 LOOKING FOR WAYS TO FORCE THEM TO DEAL WITH THE

16 RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN CYBERSPACE AND REAL PEOPLE. I

17 WORRY ABOUT THEIR DESIRE OF MEETING SOMEONE THROUGH

18 E-MAIL, AT THE SAME TIME I WORRY ABOUT THEIR DESIRE

19 OF NEVER WANTING TO MEET THEM ON THE SIDEWALK. SO

20 THIS HAS BECOME A THREAT TO MY CLASSROOM. AND I'M

21 LOOKING FOR WAYS TO FORCE THEM TO INTEGRATE THEIR

22 USE OF COMPUTERS OR AT LEAST UNDERSTAND THEIR USE

23 OF COMPUTERS IN TERMS OF SOME KIND OF MATERIAL

24 RESPONSIBILITY OR MATERIAL PRACTICE. I WAS

25 WONDERING HOW YOU MIGHT ADDRESS THAT.



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1 MR. LYMAN: I KNOW I'M OBSOLETE AND I'M AFRAID

2 YOU ARE, TOO, IN THE SENSE I GREW UP IN ANOTHER

3 WORLD AND I MAKE MORAL JUDGMENTS LIKE THAT ABOUT

4 THEIR COMMUNICATION. SO I'M HESITANT TO EXPLAIN

5 AWAY THEIR EXPERIENCE TOO EASILY OR THEIR

6 DESCRIPTION OF THEIR EXPERIENCE TOO EASILY.

7 I THINK THE PLACE I'VE -- THE PLACE I'VE TRIED

8 TO INTERVENE HAS TO DO WITH WHAT I CALL INFORMATION

9 DESIGN WHICH IS TO SAY WE SHOULD NOT ACCEPT THAT

10 COMPUTERS ARE LIKE NATURE, THAT THE KIND OF

11 COMMUNICATION IS SOMEHOW INTRINSIC IN THE

12 TECHNOLOGY. WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT CERTAIN

13 KINDS OF SOCIAL POSSIBILITIES AND COMMUNICATIVE

14 POSSIBILITIES ARE BUILT INTO COMPUTERS AND WE CAN

15 CHANGE THEM.

16 A LOT OF THE BAD BEHAVIOR IN COMPUTER

17 COMMUNICATION HAS TO DO WITH WHAT I THINK IS VERY

18 BAD SOFTWARE. PAULA TALKED -- I'VE WRITTEN ABOUT

19 THIS QUITE A BIT. I STUDIED STANFORD FACULTY FOR

20 THREE YEARS, HOW THEY -- IN HUMANITIES, HOW THEY

21 LEARNED TO USE COMPUTERS AND DISCOVER THAT NOT

22 EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD FINDS GIVING COMMANDS TO BE

23 A FRIENDLY METAPHOR OR A GOOD DESCRIPTION OF THE

24 RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN HUMANS AND KNOWLEDGE OR

25 BETWEEN HUMAN BEINGS. WELL, SOME PEOPLE DO.



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1 WHY WAS I EMPOWERED WHEN THE WOMAN SITTING

2 NEXT TO ME WASN'T? WELL, GUESS WHAT? I WAS RAISED

3 IN A MALE CULTURE AND FOUND THE IDEA OF COMMAND AND

4 CONTROL, BREAK, ESCAPE, CRASH, THE LANGUAGE OF

5 EMPOWERMENT AND GAMES. THE WOMAN SITTING NEXT TO

6 ME FOUND THEM VIOLENT.

7 ACTUALLY I WENT AROUND AND TALKED TO A WOMAN

8 POET AT STANFORD -- FEMINIST WOMAN POET, DIANE

9 MIDDLEBROOK AND SAID HOW WOULD YOU HAVE NAMED THE

10 KEYBOARD. FIRST OF ALL, THE COMMAND KEY WOULD BE A

11 RELATE KEY. THAT IS, THIS TECHNOLOGY IS DESIGNED

12 FOR THE MILITARY AND THAT LEADS TO A LOT OF THE

13 BEHAVIOR YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OR IT'S DESIGNED FOR

14 IBM TO SELL TO SHELL SO WE CAN CARRY CARDI -- TO ME

15 THE CREDIT CARD IS THE DIGITAL DOCUMENT. CASH IS

16 NOW DIGITAL. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE UP TO. WE'RE

17 UP TO TEACHING AND LEARNING. AND WE HAVE TO DESIGN

18 SOFTWARE ENVIRONMENTS FOR THAT POSSIBILITY.

19 IT'S WHY I THINK EUNUCHS GREW AND ALL THOSE

20 OTHER OPERATING SYSTEMS DIDN'T. EUNUCHS IS VERY

21 HARD TO USE, BUT AT LEAST IT WAS DESIGNED FOR

22 COLLABORATION AND COMMUNICATION, THAT IT'S

23 SOMETHING REASONABLY CLOSE TO WHAT WE DO.

24 WHAT I SAY IS, IF THE TECHNOLOGY IS HARD TO

25 USE, IT HAS TO BE REDESIGNED. IT'S JUST NOT



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1 ACCEPTABLE. DON'T BUY MICROSOFT WINDOWS.

2 MS. BROWNLEE: LET'S HAVE TWO MORE.

3 PROFESSOR ASTIN: THIS IS SORT OF A RANDOM

4 FACT THAT POPPED INTO MY MIND. WE WERE TALKING

5 JUST NOW WHAT IT'S WORTH. WE INTRODUCED A NEW ITEM

6 IN OUR FRESHMAN SURVEY IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS AND

7 IT PRODUCED THE LAST GENDER DIFFERENCE OF ANY ITEM

8 WE'VE EVER HAD IN THE QUESTIONNAIRE. IT'S HOW MANY

9 HOURS A WEEK DO YOU SPEND PLAYING VIDEO GAMES. AND

10 THE WOMEN VIRTUALLY DON'T PLAY THEM. IT IS --

11 WE'VE NEVER SEEN -- WE'RE TALKING RATIOS OF EIGHT

12 TO ONE, TEN TO ONE, ELEVEN TO ONE MEN TO WOMEN IN

13 THAT PARTICULAR RECREATIONAL PURSUIT.

14 MR. LYMAN: THAT SAYS IT ALL ABOUT YOUR

15 QUESTION, TOO.

16 PROFESSOR RAY: ROGER RAY FROM ROLLINS,

17 PSYCHOLOGY DEPARTMENT. AS SOMEONE WHO HAS SPENT

18 THE LAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS CONTEMPLATING AND

19 WORKING WITH STUDENTS IN CYBERIA, THERE SEEMS TO ME

20 TO BE AN IMPLICATION IN MUCH OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING

21 IN YOUR TALK THAT YOU DIDN'T TOUCH ON THAT I THINK

22 IS VERY SIGNIFICANT FOR THIS CONFERENCE. AND IT

23 HAS IN MY MIND TWO DIMENSIONS. ONE IS THE

24 CONCRETENESS OF PHYSICAL SPACE AND THE CONCRETENESS

25 OF KNOWLEDGE, QUALITY ASSURANCE. IT SEEMS TO ME



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1 THAT LIBERAL ARTS INSTITUTIONS ESPECIALLY HAVE

2 EXISTED AS PHYSICALLY LOCATED SPATIAL ENTITIES

3 PRIMARILY FOR THE PURPOSE OF BRINGING TOGETHER

4 THOSE WHO WOULD QUALITY ASSURE INFORMATION AND

5 THOSE WHO WOULD SEEK THAT INFORMATION AND SEEK TO

6 UNDERSTAND THE QUALITY ASSURANCE CRITERIA.

7 AS THE CYBERSPACE YOU DESCRIBED BEGINS TO

8 REALLY PROLIFERATE, WHICH I BELIEVE IT VERY QUICKLY

9 WILL AND BECOME -- AND WILL BECOME VERY MUTLI MEDIA

10 IN THE SENSE OF INTERACTIVE TELEVISION WITH VIDEO

11 CONFERENCING AND SO FORTH AS A GIVEN, WHERE IS THE

12 LIBERAL ARTS INSTITUTION, THE PHYSICAL SPACE AND

13 THE AGGREGATE OF INDIVIDUALS THAT INHABIT THAT

14 SPACE 30 YEARS OUT?

15 MR. LYMAN: THIS IS A QUESTION I OFTEN ASK IN

16 ANOTHER CONTEXT WHICH IS, IF THERE'S A DIGITAL

17 LIBRARY, IS THERE A LIBRARY? ONE OF THE THINGS IN

18 THE CASE OF THE LIBRARY IS I ALWAYS REMEMBER -- THE

19 REAL FUNCTION OF A LIBRARY IS TO SUSTAIN A

20 SCHOLARLY COMMUNITY. AND IT'S THE COMMUNITY THAT'S

21 MY FOCUS. AND WHAT THE LIBRARY IS ABOUT IS THE WAY

22 THAT COMMUNITY LEARNS, REMEMBERS AND TEACHES. AND

23 I THINK THAT'S A PHYSICAL PLACE. THAT'S A HUMAN

24 SOCIAL RELATIONSHIP, THAT IT'S A TERRIBLE MISTAKE

25 TO THINK THAT CYBERIA SUBSTITUTES FOR SOMETHING



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1 ELSE.

2 I THINK, IN FACT, IF YOU READ ELIZABETH

3 EINSTEIN'S (sic) BOOK SHE POINTS OUT FOR THE FIRST

4 CENTURY THE PRINTING PRESS WAS USED TO IMITATE

5 MANUSCRIPTS. I THINK WE'RE IN THAT KIND OF

6 TRANSITIONAL PERIOD WHERE WE'RE ASKING THE WRONG

7 QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS LIKE CAN THE COMPUTER REPLACE

8 THE BOOK? NO. WHAT THE COMPUTER IS IS ABOUT

9 ENTIRELY NEW GENRES OF READING AND WRITING. FOR

10 EXAMPLE, AND I DIDN'T MENTION SCIENTIFIC

11 VISUALIZATION, IT IS AS PROFOUND AS THE MICROSCOPE

12 OR THE TELESCOPE IN THE WAY IT CHANGES OUR

13 PERCEPTION OF NATURE. SO THAT'S -- I THINK THOSE

14 QUESTIONS ABOUT COMPUTERS AND CYBERIA SUBSTITUTING

15 ARE TRANSITIONAL QUESTIONS. I THINK THEY'RE BEING

16 PUSHED BY COMPUTER COMPANIES. I READ THE HARVARD

17 BUSINESS REVIEW AND THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT

18 PRODUCTIVITY INCREASES WHEN YOU INTRODUCE

19 COMPUTERS. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT YOU SAVE

20 MONEY UNLESS YOU COMPLETELY REORGANIZE WORK, THAT

21 IS, THE SOCIAL RELATIONSHIPS. GOD, I HOPE THAT'S

22 TRUE.

23 MR. STEWART: I'M GOING TO MAKE A VERY BRIEF

24 COMMENT AND IT WILL SHOW MY AGE -- I'M DON STEWART,

25 COLLEGE BOARD. I'VE BEEN LISTENING ABSOLUTELY



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1 FASCINATED WITH THIS DISCUSSION, PROFESSOR MAYR AND

2 DR. LYMAN. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO RECOUNT VERY

3 BRIEFLY A HAPPENING ON THE CAMPUS OF CORNELL

4 COLLEGE WHERE I WAS AN UNDERGRADUATE IN THE '50s.

5 WE HAD HAD A -- WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF A

6 SEMINAR OR SYMPOSIUM, COLLOQUIA, WHATEVER WE CALLED

7 IT AT THE TIME ON THE FUTURE OF THE LIBERAL ARTS

8 COLLEGES WHICH THEN PRESIDENT HOWARD BOWEN HAD PUT

9 TOGETHER. WE HAD WITH US NORMAN WEINER, THE FATHER

10 OF CYBERNETICS FROM MIT WHO WAS ENGAGED IN A

11 DISCUSSION WITH DAVID REESEMAN FROM HARVARD

12 UNIVERSITY.

13 IN THIS DISCUSSION PROFESSOR WEINER GAVE US

14 SOMEWHAT OF THE VISION WHICH IS FAST BECOMING

15 REALITY. HE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT MICROSOFT AND SUCH

16 THINGS. BUT WE SAW WHAT WAS COMING THROUGH HIS

17 EYES. I'LL NEVER FORGET DAVID REESEMAN SAYS, WELL,

18 BUT WHAT DOES THIS ALL MEAN FOR THE LIBERAL ARTS

19 COLLEGE? AND PROFESSOR WEINER SAID WE MUST

20 REMEMBER IN THIS WORLD THAT'S COMING, THE MOST

21 IMPORTANT THING WE MUST PROTECT IS THE QUALITY OF

22 MIND AND THAT IS IN THE PURVIEW OF THE LIBERAL ARTS

23 COLLEGE. THANK YOU.

24 MS. BROWNLEE: THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH AND

25 THANK YOU TO OUR SPEAKERS.