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1 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY:

KATY HANBURY and LAURA JERAULD

2 (Certified Real-Time Reporters)

CENTRAL FLORIDA REPORTERS, INC.

3 (407) 422-5753

4 "THE ROLE OF PRAGMATISM IS REDEFINING LIBERAL EDUCATION"

SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 16, 1997 9:00 A.M.

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(REAL-TIME PROCEEDINGS NOT PROOFREAD)

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7 MR. KATZ: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. I'M

8 ASTONISHED TO SEE THIS MANY OF YOU HERE THIS

9 MORNING. WE'VE HAD SUCH A RICH FEAST FOR A VERY

10 LONG TIME. THIS IS AN ASTONISHING DISPLAY OF

11 {}ZITZFLESCH, AND I'M GLAD YOU'RE HERE. I WANT TO

12 SAY, BY THE WAY, THAT THE NOTION OF DON STEWART IS

13 WATCHING THE LUGGAGE IS NOT TRUE.

14 (Laughter)

15 HE IS SITTING HERE TODAY. I CAN'T SPEAK FOR

16 ANYONE ELSE, BUT LEE SHULMAN MAY APPRECIATE THIS,

17 I'VE BEEN HAVING, I TOLD HIM YESTERDAY, A BAD

18 ATTACK OF HUTCHINSITIS OVER THE LAST 36 HOURS OR

19 SO, AND IT PUT ME IN MIND OF THE RISKS THAT WE RUN

20 IN THIS ENTERPRISE THAT IS ADAPTING OUR ENTERPRISE

21 TO CHANGING CONDITIONS. AND I CAN DESCRIBE THAT BY

22 TELLING MY FAVORITE ROBERT MAYNARD HUTCHINS STORY.

23 EVERYONE HAS ONE.

24 MINE IS ABOUT HUTCHINS' RELATIONS WITH BRUCE

25 LEE RUMMELL, WHO AT THE TIME WAS DEAN OF SOCIAL

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1 SCIENCES AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO, AND AS MANY

2 OF YOU WELL KNOW, WAS PREVIOUSLY THE FOUNDATION

3 OFFICER WHO HAD CREATED THE SOCIAL SCIENCES, AND IN

4 FACT, AT THE MAJOR UNIVERSITIES HUTCHINS BROUGHT

5 INTO CHICAGO, AND HE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING

6 HUTCHINS DEVELOP HIS UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO.

7 BUT RUMMELL WAS NEVER SATISFIED AND HE GOT

8 WHAT HE FELT WAS A MORE INTERESTING JOB, WHICH WAS

9 TO BE THE VICE PRESIDENT OF R.H. MACY AND COMPANY

10 IN NEW YORK. AND HE WENT TO TELL HUTCHINS, HE

11 SAID, HE THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY A MORE INTERESTING

12 JOB, AND HUTCHINS LOOKED AT HIM AND SAID, OH,

13 RUMMELL, IT ISN'T. YOU'RE LIVING IDEAS FOR

14 NOTIONS.

15 (Laughter)

16 THAT IS THE DISTINCTION I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE

17 YOU WITH. AND IT IS AN APPROPRIATE STORY FOR OUR

18 SESSION BECAUSE WE HAVE TODAY TWO OF THE MOST

19 INTERESTING HISTORIANS IN THIS COUNTRY AND PEOPLE

20 WHO HAVE WORKED ON SUBJECTS, INCLUDING, OF COURSE,

21 JOHN DEWEY, THAT ARE CENTRAL TO THE CONFERENCE THAT

22 WE HAVE TODAY.

23 THE FIRST SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE ELLEN

24 CONDLIFFE LAGEMANN, WHO IS NOW AT NEW YORK

25 UNIVERSITY WHERE SHE IS PROFESSOR OF HISTORY AND

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1 EDUCATION AND IS RUNNING A NUMBER OF INTERESTING

2 PROGRAMS AT A VERY INTERESTING AND RAPIDLY CHANGING

3 UNIVERSITY.

4 SHE, FOR A VERY LONG TIME, AS I THINK

5 EVERYBODY HERE KNOWS, WAS AT T.C., TEACHERS

6 COLLEGE, AND WAS AT THE END OF HER TIME WHILE SHE

7 WAS THERE, THE EDITOR OF THE TEACHERS COLLEGE

8 RECORD. AND IF ANY OF YOU ARE REGULAR READERS OF

9 THAT PUBLICATION, YOU WILL REMEMBER WITH NOSTALGIA

10 HER EDITORIALS, I GUESS YOU CALL THEM EDITORIALS,

11 THAT APPEARED IN EVERY ISSUE WHICH WERE SOME OF THE

12 MOST ACUTE AND INTERESTING AND WELL-WRITTEN

13 STATEMENTS ABOUT PROBLEMS IN EDUCATION AND HISTORY

14 OF EDUCATION.

15 SHE HAS HAD A VERY DISTINGUISHED CAREER AS A

16 HISTORIAN, HAS WRITTEN A GREAT MANY BOOKS, AND SHE

17 AND I WORK IN THE FIELD OF HISTORY AND PHILANTHROPY

18 WHERE SHE'S EMERGED AS THE MOST PROMINENT HISTORIAN

19 OF PHILANTHROPY. SHE IS A MEMBER OF THE NATIONAL

20 ACADEMY OF EDUCATION. SHE'S PRESIDENT OF THE

21 HISTORY OF EDUCATION SOCIETY, AND IS A TRUSTEE OF

22 THE RUSSELL SAGE FOUNDATION, OF THE MARKEL

23 FOUNDATION IN NEW YORK, AND OF THE CENTER FOR THE

24 STUDIES OF BEHAVIORAL SCIENCES IN STANFORD.

25 SO SHE'S DONE A LOT OF INTERESTING THINGS.

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1 SHE'S A GRADUATE OF SMITH COLLEGE AND T.C., AND SHE

2 WILL BE TALKING TO US THIS MORNING ABOUT A

3 PRAGMATIC VISION OF LIBERAL EDUCATION FROM

4 DISCIPLINE-BASED, PROBLEM-CENTERED LEARNING. ELLEN

5 LAGEMANN.

6 (Applaud)

7 PROFESSOR LAGEMANN: IT'S HORRIBLE TO HEAR

8 YOUR CV AT THIS HOUR OF THE MORNING. JIM

9 KLOPPENBERG AND I HAVE BEEN COMMISERATING ABOUT OUR

10 FORTUNE AND MISFORTUNE OF HAVING TO SPEAK THIS

11 MORNING, AND WE REACHED ESSENTIALLY THREE

12 CONCLUSIONS THAT WE THOUGHT WE SHOULD AVOW

13 PUBLICALLY BEFORE WE BEGIN.

14 THE FIRST IS THAT WE THINK YOU'RE ALL

15 EXTRAORDINARILY GOOD AND BRAVE TO BE HERE. AS STAN

16 WAS SAYING, WE'VE HAD A VERY FULL COUPLE OF DAYS,

17 AND YOU COULD HAVE BEEN AT HOME READING THE NEW

18 YORK TIMES OR BETTER YET, SLEEPING. SO WE'RE VERY

19 PLEASED YOU'RE STILL HERE.

20 MORE IMPORTANT THAN THAT, JIM AND I AGREE THAT

21 IF YOU ARE GOOD AND BRAVE PEOPLE, WE ARE BETTER AND

22 BRAVER BECAUSE TO BE HERE ON DAY FOUR, FOLLOWING

23 THE BRAVURA OF PERFORMANCES WE'VE HAD IN THE FIRST

24 THREE DAYS, IS TO PUT IT MILDLY, INTIMIDATING.

25 THE LAST POINT THAT JIM AND I AGREED ON IS

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1 THAT THE LITTLE MOTTO FOR THE DAY THAT I PRESUME

2 BOB ORRILL OR RITA OR SOMEBODY PICKED SHOULD BE

3 CHANGED, AND IT SHOULD INSTEAD READ, FOOLS RUSH IN

4 WHERE WISE PEOPLE FEAR TO GO. SO I'M GOING TO RUSH

5 IN.

6 LOTS OF PEOPLE HAVE CLAIMED, INCLUDING, I

7 THINK, PRETTY MUCH EVERY SPEAKER AT THIS MEETING,

8 THAT JOHN DEWEY'S PROSE WAS DENSE, TURGID AND

9 IMPENETRABLE, BUT VERY FEW PEOPLE TEND TO POINT

10 OUT, AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HERE HAS POINTED

11 OUT, THAT IF DEWEY'S PROSE WAS ON OCCASION LESS

12 THAN FELICITOUS, DEWEY WAS STILL A MASTER OF THE

13 PITHY, APT PHRASE, AND IT IS ONE SUCH PHRASE THAT

14 IS REALLY THE TEXT FOR WHAT I SHOULD LIKE TO TALK

15 ABOUT THIS MORNING.

16 IN AN ESSAY HE WROTE IN THE 1920'S, DEWEY

17 REMARKED THAT THE PROBLEM OF AMERICAN COLLEGES AND

18 UNIVERSITIES WAS THAT, QUOTE, ACADEMIC CLOSETS HAD

19 BECOME TOO NARROW. IF THAT WAS TRUE IN THE 1920'S,

20 IT IS PROBABLY EVEN MORE TRUE IN 1997, AND THE

21 PROBLEM OF NARROW ACADEMIC CLOSETS, OTHERWISE KNOWN

22 AS EXCESSIVE SPECIALIZATION, IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS

23 ONE MUST CONFRONT, I BELIEVE, IN THINKING ABOUT THE

24 RELEVANCE OF PRAGMATISM FOR LIBERAL EDUCATION.

25 WITH THAT IN MIND, I SHOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW

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1 WORDS ABOUT TWO EARLY 20TH CENTURY THINKERS WHO

2 REFUSE TO MOVE INTO NARROW ACADEMIC CLOSETS, THE

3 FIRST BEING JOHN DEWEY, AND THE SECOND BEING JANE

4 ADDAMS, WHO PETER LYMANN MENTIONED YESTERDAY. THEN

5 I SHOULD LIKE VERY GENERALLY TO POINT TO A FEW OF

6 THE HISTORIC FORCES THAT HAVE LIMITED THE PRACTICAL

7 APPLICATION AND WIDE INSTITUTIONALIZATION OF THE

8 IDEAS EXPRESSED BY PRAGMATIC THINKERS LIKE ADDAMS

9 AND DEWEY; AND FINALLY, I SHOULD LIKE TO TURN THAT

10 PERHAPS DISHEARTENING STORY ON ITS HEAD BY

11 VENTURING THE THOUGHT THAT, DIFFICULTIES

12 NOTWITHSTANDING, EFFORTS TO FOSTER MORE

13 PROBLEM-CENTERED, PRAGMATIC APPROACHES TO LIBERAL

14 EDUCATION MAY BE VALUABLE TODAY, NOT ONLY BECAUSE

15 THEY CAN NURTURE THE HABITS OF MIND AND CHARACTER

16 NECESSARY FOR LIFE IN A LARGE, COMPLEX WORLD, BUT

17 ALSO BECAUSE THEY MAY BE HELPFUL IN OVERCOMING SOME

18 OF THE DILEMMAS NOW CENTRAL TO AMERICAN EDUCATION

19 AND AMERICAN SOCIETY.

20 TWO QUICK CAUTIONS I THINK I SHOULD ADD. THE

21 FIRST WAS REALLY SORT OF IMPLICIT IN THE AGREEMENTS

22 JIM KLOPPENBERG AND I HAVE REACHED, AND THAT IS,

23 THAT INEVITABLY I AM GOING TO BE REPEATING RATHER

24 QUICKLY MUCH THAT MANY OF YOU HAVE ALREADY SAID, SO

25 I APOLOGIZE AHEAD OF TIME FOR THE REPETITION.

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1 THE SECOND IS THAT THE FANCY OFFICIAL TITLE

2 FOR MY TALK THAT STAN READ WAS NEGOTIATED WITH BOB

3 ORRILL MANY, MONTHS AGO, LONG BEFORE I EVEN THOUGHT

4 ABOUT WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY TODAY. AND IT SORT OF

5 DESCRIBES SOME OF WHERE I WANTED TO DISCUSS, SO

6 COULD A TITLE, I MIGHT HAVE PIRATED IN MODIFIED

7 FORM FROM GEORGE COUNTS, WHO WAS A COLLEAGUE OF

8 JOHN DEWEY'S IN NEW YORK, AND IF I'D USE THAT TITLE

9 IT WOULD HAVE BEEN, DARE THE COLLEGE, BUILD A NEW

10 SOCIAL ORDER.

11 ACCORDING TO JOHN DEWEY, LIBERAL EDUCATION WAS

12 THE SORT OF EDUCATION THAT EVERY MEMBER OF THE

13 COMMUNITY SHOULD HAVE. THE EDUCATION THAT WILL

14 LIBERATE HIS CAPACITIES AND THEREBY CONTRIBUTE BOTH

15 TO HIS OWN HAPPINESS AND HIS SOCIAL USEFULNESS.

16 DEWEY ALWAYS INSISTED THAT LIBERAL EDUCATION COULD

17 NOT BE GIVEN AN A PRIORI, UNIVERSAL DEFINITION

18 BECAUSE IT DIDN'T INVOLVE ANY FIXED SET OF

19 SUBJECTS.

20 ONCE BUT NO LONGER A PRIVILEGE RESERVED FOR

21 UPPER CLASS GENTLEMEN, LIBERAL LEARNING FOR DEWEY

22 HAD TO DO WITH MATTERS OF METHOD AND DIRECTION.

23 REGARDLESS OF SUBJECT MATTER, A LIBERAL EDUCATION,

24 DEWEY BELIEVED, SHOULD ENDOW ONE, WITH, QUOTE,

25 HOSPITALITY OF MIND, GENEROUS IMAGINATION, TRAINED

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1 CAPACITY OF DISCRIMINATION, FREEDOM FROM CLASS

2 SECTARIAN AND PARTISAN PREJUDICE AND PASSION AND

3 FAITH WITHOUT FANATICISM.

4 DESPITE STATEMENTS SUCH AS THESE, WHICH

5 CLEARLY SET FORTH HIS VISION OF LIBERAL LEARNING,

6 DEWEY WROTE RELATIVELY LITTLE ABOUT HIGHER

7 EDUCATION. HE DID THIS BY INTENTION; BEING

8 CONVINCED THAT THE COLLEGE PROBLEM IS PRIMARILY NOT

9 A COLLEGE PROBLEM, BUT IS IN WHAT WE CALL THE

10 GRADES AND THE HIGH SCHOOL. OBVIOUSLY, THEREFORE,

11 DEWEY SAW THE REFORM OF ELEMENTARY AND SECONDARY

12 EDUCATION AS A NECESSARY PRECONDITION TO MORE

13 PRAGMATIC APPROACHES TO HIGHER EDUCATION, AND IT IS

14 IN RELATION TO REFORM AT THOSE LEVELS THAT HIS

15 IDEAS AND THEIR IMPACT MUST BE APPRAISED.

16 AS IS WELL KNOWN TO EVERYBODY HERE, DEWEY'S

17 PHILOSOPHY ENTAILED ACTIVE, PROBLEM-CENTERED

18 LEARNING. IN INTERACTION WITH ASTUTELY OBSERVANT,

19 HIGHLY KNOWLEDGEABLE AND AUTONOMOUS TEACHERS,

20 CHILDREN WERE TO BE HELPED TO EXTEND THE KNOWLEDGE

21 AND EXPERIENCE THEY BROUGHT TO SCHOOL BY

22 DISCOVERING AND MASTERING NEW KNOWLEDGE AND SKILLS

23 RELEVANT TO THE PROJECTS THEY WERE UNDERTAKING

24 COLLABORATIVELY WITH THEIR CLASSMATES, PROJECTS

25 RANGING FROM PLANNING AND GROWING A GARDEN TO

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1 LEARNING A FOREIGN LANGUAGE.

2 IN THIS WAY DEWEY BELIEVED KNOWLEDGE COULD BE

3 PSYCHOLOGIZED; THAT IS, MADE ACCESSIBLE THROUGH ITS

4 RELATION TO THE INTERESTS OF THE CHILD. AND

5 LEARNING COULD BE SOCIALIZED, WHICH MEANT DIRECTED

6 TOWARDS UNDERSTANDING AND BEING ABLE TO ACT ON THE

7 KINDS OF SOCIAL SITUATIONS THAT ACTUALLY EXISTED IN

8 THE WORLD.

9 ALTHOUGH MANY OF DEWEY'S EDUCATIONAL WRITINGS

10 WERE WIDELY CIRCULATED AND HIS NAME WAS ASSOCIATED

11 WITH A GREAT VARIETY OF EDUCATIONAL REFORMS --

12 WHICH HAS ALSO BEEN HAPPENING THIS WEEKEND, I MEAN,

13 EVERYTHING THAT HAS HAPPENED FOR THE LAST HUNDRED

14 YEARS WAS BECAUSE OF JOHN DEWEY, IT SEEMS -- THE

15 LITTLE-KNOWN FACT IS THAT HIS PHILOSOPHY OF

16 PROGRESSIVE EDUCATION HAD RELATIVELY SCANT

17 INFLUENCE ON EDUCATIONAL PRACTICE EXCEPT IN EARLY

18 CHILDHOOD EDUCATION AS LUKE MENAND POINTED OUT.

19 DEWEY EXPRESSLY DISASSOCIATED HIMSELF FROM

20 MANY SELF-STYLED PROGRESSIVE INNOVATIONS, THEREBY

21 INDICATING THAT EVEN IN SCHOOLS THAT PROFESSED TO

22 BE DEWEYAN, HIS IDEAS HAD BEEN AT BEST ONLY

23 PARTIALLY UNDERSTOOD AND IMPLEMENTED. MORE

24 IMPORTANT, DESPITE LOTS OF RHETORIC ABOUT THE GREAT

25 INFLUENCE OF DEWEY AND TEACHERS COLLEGE, INCLUDING

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1 THE KIND OF NEGATIVE COMMENT THAT RITA QUOTED TO US

2 THE FIRST NIGHT, THE FACT IS THAT FEW PUBLIC

3 SCHOOLS REALLY TRIED TO INSTITUTIONALIZE

4 PROGRESSIVE IDEAS, AND THOSE THAT DID TENDED TO DO

5 SO VERY SUPERFICIALLY AND SELECTIVELY.

6 IT SHOULD BE NOTED, TOO, THAT WHAT INFLUENCE

7 TEACHERS COLLEGE DID EXERCISE ON PUBLIC SCHOOLING

8 HAD FAR MORE TO DO WITH THE IDEAS OF EDWARD L.

9 THORNDIKE, THE PSYCHOLOGIST WHOSE WORK SUPPORTED

10 BUREAUCRATICALLY-ORGANIZED, SUBJECT-CENTERED FORMS

11 OF SCHOOLING THAN WITH THOSE OF JOHN DEWEY.

12 THAT DEWEY'S NAME BECAME AN ICON WIDELY

13 ASSOCIATED WITH EDUCATIONAL REFORM IS INDISPUTABLE.

14 DESPITE THAT, HOWEVER, THERE IS LITTLE CONCRETE

15 EVIDENCE THAT DEWEY WAS ABLE TO CHANGE THE COURSE

16 OF EDUCATION IN THE UNITED STATES, AND THERE IS A

17 LOT OF EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST HOW RARE DEWEYAN

18 PRACTICES ARE EVEN TODAY.

19 HOWEVER BRILLIANT DEWEY'S IDEAS MAY HAVE BEEN,

20 HE WAS NOT A STRATEGIC THINKER, AND THE IMPACT OF

21 HIS IDEAS ON INSTITUTIONALIZED EDUCATIONAL PRACTICE

22 WAS UNFORTUNATELY SLIGHT.

23 SADLY, THE SAME POINT CAN BE MADE ABOUT JANE

24 ADDAMS, WHO WAS NOT ONLY AN UNUSUALLY HUMANE SOCIAL

25 ACTIVIST, BUT ALSO A BRILLIANT INTELLECTUAL OF

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1 DISTINCTLY PRAGMATIC THINKING. AT HULL HOUSE, THE

2 SETTLEMENT SHE ESTABLISHED WITH ELLEN GATES STARR

3 IN 1989, ADDAMS PRODUCED A CONTINUOUS STREAM OF

4 INCISIVE SOCIAL COMMENTARY, AND MUCH THAT SHE HAD

5 TO SAY PERTAINED TO EDUCATION.

6 BUT EDUCATION SHOULD HAVE BEEN A CENTRAL THEME

7 IN ADDAMS' WRITINGS REFLECTED THE PURPOSES SHE

8 BELIEVED ESSENTIAL TO SETTLEMENT WORK. ADDAMS

9 OFTEN DESCRIBED HULL HOUSE AS AN ANTIDOTE TO THE

10 COLLEGE. BENT UPON BRINGING, "INTO THE CIRCLE OF

11 KNOWLEDGE AND FULLER LIFE, MEN AND WOMEN WHO MIGHT

12 OTHERWISE BE LEFT OUTSIDE," HULL HOUSE WAS THE

13 SETTING FOR A WIDE RANGE OF LECTURES AND

14 DISCUSSIONS ON SCIENCE, POLITICS, LITERATURE AND

15 ART.

16 ALL THIS WAS VITAL, ADDAMS BELIEVED, BECAUSE

17 LIKE DEWEY, SHE THOUGHT LIBERAL LEARNING SHOULD AND

18 COULD BE BOTH ACCESSIBLE TO ALL PEOPLE AND

19 LIBERATING IN EFFECT. ALWAYS A REALIST, ADDAMS WAS

20 KEENLY AWARE OF THE PEDAGOGICAL PROBLEMS INVOLVED

21 IN OFFERING LIBERAL LEARNING IN WAYS THAT COULD

22 CONNECT WITH THE LARGE GENERAL INTERESTS OF DIVERSE

23 AUDIENCES.

24 A COURSE OF LECTURES ON ASTRONOMY WILL ATTRACT

25 A LARGE AUDIENCE THE FIRST WEEK, SHE ONCE OBSERVED,

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1 BUT TOO OFTEN THE AUDIENCE, WHICH COMES HOPING TO

2 HEAR OF THE WONDERS OF THE HEAVENS AND THE RELATION

3 OF OUR EARTH THERETO IS INSTEAD TREATED TO SPECTRUM

4 ANALYSIS OF STAR DUST OR THE LATEST THEORY

5 CONCERNING THE MILKY WAY.

6 ADDAMS ASTUTELY CONCLUDED FROM THIS THAT THE

7 HABIT OF RESEARCH AND THE DESIRE TO SAY THE LATEST

8 WORD UPON ANY SUBJECT OFTEN OVERCOMES A PROFESSOR'S

9 SYMPATHETIC UNDERSTANDING OF AN AUDIENCE. HAVING

10 SEEN THIS HAPPEN ON MANY OCCASIONS, ADDAMS

11 SUGGESTED THAT POPULAR LIBERAL EDUCATION NOW

12 REQUIRE THE MOST DIRECT FORMS OF EXPRESSION RATHER

13 THAN THE DULL TERMINOLOGY OF THE CLASSROOM, AS WELL

14 AS A FOCUS ON LARGE AND VITAL SUBJECTS.

15 DESPITE THE EMPHASIS ADDAMS PLACED ON

16 EDUCATION AS WELL AS ON RESEARCH, WHICH WAS AN

17 ESSENTIAL ACTIVITY AT SOCIAL SETTLEMENTS WHICH SHE

18 DESCRIBED AS SOCIOLOGICAL LABORATORIES, AND DESPITE

19 THE FAME SHE ACHIEVED ACROSS THE UNITED STATES AND

20 THROUGHOUT THE WORLD, SETTLEMENT WORK, AS SHE

21 PIONEERED IT, DID NOT LONG SURVIVE HER DEATH IN

22 1935.

23 OFTEN CLAIMED AS A FOUNDER OF THE SOCIAL WORK

24 PROFESSION, ADDAMS WAS IN FACT A SOCIOLOGIST IN THE

25 19TH CENTURY SENSE OF SOMEONE WHO STUDIED SOCIAL

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1 PROBLEMS IN ORDER BOTH TO UNDERSTAND AND ACT ON

2 THEM. HER BRILLIANCE WAS ACKNOWLEDGED BY MANY

3 PEOPLE, AND YET NEW STYLES OF RESEARCH INCREASINGLY

4 RENDERED OBSOLETE THE SYNTHESIS ADDAMS SOUGHT

5 BETWEEN THEORY AND ACTION, STUDY AND DISCUSSION.

6 AS A RESULT OF THIS, SETTLEMENTS LIKE HULL

7 HOUSE INCREASINGLY BECAME SETTINGS IN WHICH

8 UNIVERSITY-BASED, USUALLY MALE SOCIOLOGISTS MIGHT

9 COLLECT DATA, BUT THEY NO LONGER SERVED AS PRIMARY

10 CENTERS FOR SOCIAL RESEARCH. INCREASINGLY, TOO, AS

11 SOCIAL WORK BECAME A PROFESSION, SETTLEMENTS BECAME

12 CENTERS FOR CHARITY OR WELFARE ADMINISTRATION AND

13 NOT FOR THE DISCUSSION AND DEBATE ABOUT THE SOURCES

14 OF COMMON SOCIAL PROBLEMS, WHICH FOR ADDAMS WAS

15 WHAT LIBERAL LEARNING WAS ALL ABOUT.

16 HULL HOUSE STILL STANDS, BUT SETTLEMENT WORK,

17 AS DEFINED BY JANE ADDAMS, HAS GENERALLY BEEN

18 SUPERCEDED. LIKE DEWEY, ADDAMS IS AN ICON TO

19 PRACTICES SHE DID NOT SUPPORT, AND THOUGH HER IDEAS

20 ARE STILL AVAILABLE FOR STUDY, THEIR INFLUENCE IN

21 THE DOMAINS OF STUDY AND PRACTICE SHE STRADDLED,

22 SOCIOLOGY, SOCIAL WORK AND EDUCATION MOST IMPORTANT

23 AMONG THEM, HAS IN THE END BEEN REMARKABLY SLIGHT.

24 AS DEWEY AND ADDAMS WERE BOTH AWARE, THEY WERE

25 LIVING AT A TIME WHEN KNOWLEDGE WAS INCREASING AT

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1 AN ENORMOUS RATE AND BECOMING MORE AND MORE

2 SPECIALIZED, AND IN CONSIDERABLE MEASURE, IT WAS

3 SPECIALIZATION, THOSE NARROW ACADEMIC CLOSETS, THAT

4 LIMITED THE INSTITUTIONALIZATION OF THEIR IDEAS.

5 IN DEWEY'S CASE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE EMERGENCE OF

6 A PROFESSIONAL CADRE OF EDUCATION RESEARCHERS BENT

7 UPON DEVELOPING A PROFESSIONALIZED SCIENCE OF

8 EDUCATION HELPED TO UNDERMINE THE COLLABORATIVE

9 PRACTICE-BASED APPROACH TO EDUCATIONAL STUDY THAT

10 WAS ESSENTIAL TO DEWEY'S UNDERSTANDING OF

11 PROGRESSIVE EDUCATION.

12 DESPITE COMMON MISCONCEPTIONS CONCERNING

13 DEWEY'S ADVOCACY OF CHILD-CENTERED EDUCATION,

14 EXTRAORDINARY TEACHERS FREELY INTERACTING ON AN

15 EQUAL BASIS WITH UNIVERSITY SCHOLARS WERE

16 INDISPENSABLE IN DEWEY'S FORMULATION OF PROGRESSIVE

17 EDUCATION.

18 AS PROFESSIONALIZATION ADVANCED, HOWEVER,

19 CROSS-ROLE, CROSS-FIELD STUDY AND DISCUSSION OF THE

20 KIND DEWEY ADVOCATED BECAME MORE AND MORE

21 DIFFICULT. SCHOLARS OF EDUCATION WITHIN UNIVERSITY

22 SCHOOLS AND DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION, WHICH WERE

23 JUST BEING FOUNDED AT THE TURN OF THE CENTURY,

24 BELIEVED THEY COULD FORMULATE LAWS OF LEARNING THAT

25 WOULD HAVE UNIVERSAL APPLICATION ACROSS SCHOOL

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1 SETTINGS.

2 FITTING WELL WITH MODELS OF SCHOLARSHIP THEN

3 DEVELOPING ACROSS THE RANGE OF UNIVERSITY SCHOOLS

4 AND DEPARTMENTS, THOSE BELIEFS ABOUT EDUCATIONAL

5 SCHOLARSHIP MADE DEWEY'S VIEWS SEEM ROMANTIC AND

6 PRESCIENTIFIC. EDWARD L. THORNDIKE SUGGESTED THIS

7 WHEN HE RATHER CAUSTICALLY OBSERVED THAT, QUOTE,

8 WHAT PHYSICAL SCIENCE HAS TO DO WITH THE

9 COSMOLOGIES OF THE EARLY PHILOSOPHERS, THE SCIENCE

10 OF EDUCATION HAS TO DO WITH THE GENERALIZATIONS OF

11 HERBERT, SPENCER AND DEWEY.

12 AS I HAVE ALREADY SUGGESTED, ADDAMS'

13 CONCEPTION OF THE SOCIAL SETTLEMENT ALSO FELL

14 VICTIM TO THE TREND TOWARDS SPECIALIZATION THAT

15 MADE THE RESEARCH UNIVERSITY HOME TO AN EVER

16 MULTIPLYING ARRAY OF PROFESSIONAL FIELDS AND

17 DISCIPLINES. ADVANCING PROFESSIONALIZATION

18 FOSTERED MORE AND MORE RIGID DIVISIONS BETWEEN THE

19 DEVELOPMENT AND APPLICATION OF KNOWLEDGE.

20 THOSE WERE COMPOUNDED BY GENDERED ASSUMPTIONS

21 CONCERNING MALE INCLINATIONS TO BE INVENTIVE AND

22 FEMALE INCLINATIONS TO BE INTUITIVE, MALLEABLE AND

23 ALWAYS DISPOSED TO NURTURE AND CARE. SUCH BELIEFS

24 EASILY SUPPORTED EXPECTATIONS THAT MEN WERE

25 GENERATING KNOWLEDGE, AND WOMEN WOULD APPLY IT.

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1 OWING TO ALL THIS, AS UNIVERSITIES CAME TO

2 HOLD THE VIRTUAL MONOPOLIES ON KNOWLEDGE CREATION,

3 SOCIAL SETTLEMENTS WERE REDEFINED. NO LONGER

4 REGARDED AS SOCIOLOGICAL LABORATORIES, THEY BECAME

5 PLACES OF CHARITY TO WHICH SCHOLARS MIGHT GO TO

6 DOCUMENT THE PROBLEMS OF THE POOR, THE DEVIANT AND

7 THE NEWLY ARRIVED.

8 CLOSELY RELATED TO SPECIALIZATION

9 PROFESSIONALIZATION AND DISCIPLINE FORMATION, THE

10 EMPHASIS ON EXPERTISE THAT WAS SO ESSENTIAL TO THE

11 RISE OF THE UNIVERSITY WAS YET ANOTHER FACTOR IN

12 THE MARGINALIZATION OF APPROACHES TO EDUCATION THAT

13 WERE COMPATIBLE WITH DEWEY AND ADDAMS' PRAGMATIC

14 ORIENTATION.

15 THIS EMPHASIS ON EXPERTISE REVEALS AN

16 IMPORTANT DIFFERENCE IN BELIEF BETWEEN GENUINELY

17 POPULIST PROGRESSIVES LIKE DEWEY AND ADDAMS, ON THE

18 ONE HAND, AND MANY OF THEIR CONTEMPORARIES ON THE

19 OTHER. BOTH WERE HISTORIANS CALLED MUGWUMP TYPES,

20 LIKE HARVARD PRESIDENT CHARLES W. ELIOT, AND

21 YOUNGER PROGRESSIVES OF TECHNOCRATIC PERSUATION

22 LIKE WALTER LIPPMANN.

23 VIA HIS CHAMPIONSHIP OF THE ELECTIVE SYSTEM AS

24 WELL AS HIS PUBLIC STATEMENTS ABOUT GOVERNMENT, THE

25 PROFESSIONS, EDUCATION AND MUCH ELSE, CHARLES ELIOT

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1 DID A GREAT DEAL TO POPULARIZE BELIEF IN THE NOTION

2 THAT LEADERSHIP IN A MODERN SOCIETY SHOULD REQUIRE,

3 ALONG WITH THE TESTED SENSE OF CHARACTER, HIGH

4 LEVELS OF UNUSUAL KNOWLEDGE AND SKILL.

5 CENTRAL AMONG THE MANY DIFFERENT REASONS THAT

6 PROMPTED HIM TO CHAMPION COURSE ELECTION AT HARVARD

7 WAS THE PROSPECT THAT ELECTION WOULD ALLOW STUDENTS

8 TO DEVELOP THEIR PARTICULAR TALENTS TO HIGHER

9 LEVELS AND AT YOUNGER AGES THAN WOULD BE POSSIBLE

10 IF THEY WERE REQUIRED FIRST TO MASTER A BROAD

11 SPECTRUM OF KNOWLEDGE. ARGUING THAT THE PUBLIC

12 SCHOOLS SHOULD FOSTER A WILLINGNESS TO DEFER TO

13 EXPERTS IN ALL THEIR STUDENTS, ELIOT MAINTAINED

14 THAT COLLEGES SHOULD BE INSTITUTIONS THROUGH WHICH

15 THE MOST ABLE WOULD BECOME THE BEST TRAINED AND

16 RISE TO POSITIONS OF POWER, WEALTH, RESPONSIBILITY

17 AND FAME.

18 MORE THAN IS OFTEN REMEMBERED TODAY, THOUGH, I

19 THINK PEOPLE HERE ARE AWARE OF IT, ELIOT'S VIEWS

20 WERE UNUSUALLY IMPORTANT IN THE EARLY PART OF THE

21 20TH CENTURY. THIS WAS PARTLY BECAUSE ELIOT

22 PURPOSEFULLY AND VERY SKILLFULLY TURNED HIMSELF

23 INTO A SCHOOLMASTER TO THE NATION. BEYOND THAT, HE

24 WAS AS STRATEGIC A THINKER AS JOHN DEWEY WAS NOT,

25 AND HE MADE IT HIS BUSINESS AS PRESIDENT OF HARVARD

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1 TO DOMINATE ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT COULD HAVE

2 AN IMPACT ON REFORM -- ON THE REFORMS HE FAVORED --

3 ONE OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS BEING THE CARNEGIE

4 FOUNDATION FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF TEACHING, WHICH

5 THROUGH REPORTS LIKE THE FLEXNER REPORT ON MEDICAL

6 EDUCATION TRULY BECAME WHAT ITS FIRST PRESIDENT BUT

7 NOT ITS PRESIDENT ELECT CALLED, QUOTE, THE GREAT

8 AGENCY IN STANDARDIZING AMERICAN EDUCATION.

9 LIKE MANY OF THEIR CONTEMPORARIES, DEWEY AND

10 ADDAMS UNDERSTOOD THE VALUE OF RAISING STANDARDS

11 FOR EDUCATION AND NURTURING EXPERTISE. HOWEVER,

12 THEY WERE MORE CONCERNED THAN PEOPLE LIKE ELIOT

13 WITH FINDING WAYS DELIBERATELY TO FOSTER EQUAL

14 RELATIONS BETWEEN AND AMONG DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

15 FINDING NEW WAYS NOT MERELY TO ALLOW BUT POSITIVELY

16 TO PROMOTE FREE COMMUNICATION AND UNIVERSAL

17 PARTICIPATION IN THE DEFINITION OF COMMON GOALS AND

18 POLICIES WAS A CONCERN OF DEWEY AND ADDAMS THAT

19 ELIOT SIMPLY DID NOT SHARE.

20 NEITHER DID YOUNGER PROGRESSIVES OF

21 TECHNOCRATIC PERSUATION. OFTEN SITUATED IN

22 RESEARCH INSTITUTIONS LIKE THE BROOKINGS

23 INSTITUTION AND THE NATIONAL BUREAU OF ECONOMIC

24 RESEARCH, THESE YOUNGER PROGRESSIVES WORRIED THAT

25 ORDINARY PEOPLE COULD NOT COMPREHEND PUBLIC

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1 PROBLEMS AND EVENTS, AND THEY WERE EAGER TO PROVIDE

2 A CORRECTIVE FOR THIS THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OF

3 DISINTERESTED EXPERTISE.

4 SUCH THINKERS RARELY, IF EVER, PICKED UP ON

5 DEWEY AND ADDAMS' DEEP-SEATED BELIEF THAT THE MOST

6 IMPORTANT CHALLENGES FOR AMERICAN SOCIETY INVOLVED

7 GOING BEYOND THE DISSEMINATION OF EXPERTISE TO

8 IDENTIFY MORE EFFECTIVE MEANS OF PUBLIC EDUCATION.

9 A CONSTANT THING IN ADDAMS' WRITING THIS POINT

10 WAS ALSO FORCEFULLY EXPRESSED IN A REVIEW DEWEY

11 WROTE OF WALTER LIPPMANN'S PUBLIC OPINION. HAVING

12 ASSOCIATED HIMSELF WITH LIPPMANN'S BELIEF THAT

13 FINDING WAYS TO CAPTURE AND COMMUNICATE PUBLIC

14 EVENTS AND ISSUES WAS COMING TO BE THE PROBLEM OF

15 DEMOCRACY, DEWEY CONCLUDED, NONETHELESS, THAT

16 LIPPMANN HAD REACHED THE WRONG SOLUTION.

17 THE EDUCATION OF EXPERTS WHO COULD THEN INFORM

18 AND LEAD THE PUBLIC WAS NOT SUFFICIENT, DEWEY

19 INSISTED. DEMOCRACY DEMANDS A MORE THOROUGHGOING

20 EDUCATION THAN THE EDUCATION OF OFFICIALS,

21 ADMINISTRATORS AND DIRECTORS OF INDUSTRY, HE SAID.

22 UNFORTUNATELY, DEWEY'S CRITICISM OF LIPPMANN

23 DID NOT PROCEED TO A FULL ELABORATION OF HOW HE

24 THOUGHT ONE COULD MOVE TOWARD WHAT HE CALLED

25 FUNDAMENTAL GENERAL EDUCATION. AND THAT

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1 SHORTCOMING, WHICH WAS NOT FULLY CORRECTED IN ANY

2 OF DEWEY'S WRITINGS, HAS LIMITED POSSIBILITIES FOR

3 EXTENDING, BUILDING FROM AND TESTING HIS VISION IN

4 ACTUAL SOCIAL EXPERIMENTS.

5 DESPITE THAT, DEWEY'S CRITICISM OF LIPPMANN

6 DID SUGGEST THE DEGREE TO WHICH A FOCUS ON

7 PROMOTING HIGH LEVELS OF KNOWLEDGE, APART FROM AN

8 EQUAL FOCUS ON INVENTING WAYS TO UNIVERSALIZE THE

9 CAPACITY TO UNDERSTAND, APPRECIATE, AND CRITICIZE

10 SUCH KNOWLEDGE, COULD LEAD AND INDEED HAS LED TO

11 PROFOUND POLITICAL INEQUALITIES.

12 BECAUSE LIPPMANN'S POLITICAL VALUES LIKE THOSE

13 HELD BY CHARLES ELIOT WERE LESS RADICALLY

14 DEMOCRATIC THAN THOSE HELD BY DEWEY AND ADDAMS, HE

15 DIDN'T WORRY, AS THEY DID, THAT LIBERAL EDUCATION

16 REMAIN AN EXCLUSIVE, ELITE PRESERVE RATHER THE THE

17 COMMON, EVEN UNIVERSAL EXPERIENCE DEWEY AND ADDAMS

18 WISHED IT TO BE.

19 IN A SOCIETY OF EXPERT GOVERNANCE, SUCH AS

20 THAT IMAGINED BY LIPPMANN AND A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY

21 BY ELIOT, IT WAS MORE IMPORTANT TO PROMOTE

22 SPECIALIZATION AND COURSE ELECTION THAN OPEN

23 COMMUNICATION AND COMMON LEARNING.

24 OBVIOUSLY THERE WERE MANY FORCES IN ADDITION

25 TO INCREASING SPECIALIZATION AND GROWING BELIEF IN

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1 AS WELL AS DEFERENCE TO EXPERTISE THAT WERE

2 INVOLVED IN THE TURN-OF-THE-CENTURY TRANSFORMATION

3 OF AMERICAN HIGHER EDUCATION. AND MANY OF THOSE

4 WERE ALSO IMPORTANT IN LIMITING THE

5 INSTITUTIONALIZATION OF DEWEY AND ADDAMS' IDEAS.

6 BUT EVEN LEAVING THOSE ASIDE HERE, BECAUSE THESE

7 TALKS GO ON TOO LONG IF YOU PUT EVERYTHING IN, AND

8 SKIPPING OVER IMPORTANT SUBSEQUENT DEVELOPMENTS,

9 THE POINT I HOPE IS CLEAR.

10 AS A RESULT OF TRENDS SET IN MOTION AT THE

11 TURN OF THE CENTURY, THE VISION OF PRAGMATIC

12 LIBERAL EDUCATION ONE CAN DISCERN IN DEWEY AND

13 ADDAMS' WRITINGS DID NOT GAIN WIDE ASSENT. EVEN IF

14 PARTS OF THAT VISION WERE INCORPORATED WITHIN THE

15 PROGRESSIVE COLLEGES, IT REMAINED AN ALTERNATIVE

16 FUNDAMENTALLY AT ODDS WITH THE CENTRAL TENDENCIES

17 OF U.S. HIGHER EDUCATION.

18 THIS IS IN PART WHAT TOM EHRLICH WAS SAYING

19 THE OTHER DAY, I THINK. THE QUESTION, THEN, IS

20 DOES THAT MATTER IN 1997; AND IF IT DOES, WHAT'S TO

21 BE DONE? THE HISTORIC MARGINALIZATION OF PRAGMATIC

22 APPROACHES TO LIBERAL EDUCATION DOES MATTER, I

23 THINK, BECAUSE THE VALUES AND PRIORITIES IMPLICIT

24 IN SUCH APPROACHES HAVE BEEN SHORT-CHANGED IN FAVOR

25 OF OTHER ALSO IMPORTANT VALUES AND PRIORITIES. IN

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1 CONSEQUENCE, THE MODERN U.S. SYSTEM OF HIGHER

2 EDUCATION RESTS ON A NUMBER OF DIFFICULT AND IN THE

3 LONG RUN DANGEROUS DILEMMAS THAT ARE A RESULT OF

4 IMBALANCES IN VALUES AND PRIORITIES.

5 BY WAY OF EXAMPLE, CONSIDER JUST TWO. AS

6 HISTORIAN THOMAS HASKELL HAS RECENTLY ARGUED IN A

7 WONDERFUL BOOK ABOUT ACADEMIC FREEDOM THAT LUKE

8 MENAND EDITED, STRONG DISCIPLINES ARE NECESSARY TO

9 THE PROFESSIONAL AUTONOMY AND COLLEGIAL

10 SELF-GOVERNANCE THAT IS THE HEART AND SOUL OF

11 ACADEMIC FREEDOM.

12 THE CONTINUOUS CRITICISM GENERATED THROUGH

13 INTERNAL DISCIPLINARY REVIEWS AND PEER EVALUATION

14 HELPS JUSTIFY THE FREEDOM FROM EXTERNAL REGULATION

15 AND OVERSIGHT THAT ACADEMIC FREEDOM BRINGS.

16 VALUABLE IN MAINTAINING THE CONDITIONS NECESSARY TO

17 FREE AND CRITICAL INQUIRY, DISCIPLINES CAN,

18 NEVERTHELESS, MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO ADDRESS THE

19 PROBLEMS THAT EXIST IN THE WORLD OUTSIDE THE

20 ACADEMY. PROBLEMS OF HEALTH, POVERTY OR ARTS

21 SUPPORT RARELY PARSE THEMSELVES ALONG NEATLY DRAWN

22 DISCIPLINARY LINES. IF THAT MIGHT SUGGEST THE

23 VALUE OF CROSS-DISCIPLINARY TRAINING OR A TEAM

24 APPROACH, ACTUAL EXPERIENCE WITH SUCH REMEDIES

25 TENDS TO INDICATE THAT DISCIPLINARY KNOWLEDGE IS

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1 ITSELF NOW TOO SPECIALIZED AND DISCIPLINARY

2 THINKING TOO WELL INGRAINED TO BE EASILY

3 SUSCEPTIBLE TO CROSS-DISCIPLINARY VENTURES.

4 FOR THE MOMENT, THEREFORE, WE LIVE WITH A

5 DILEMMA. IF WE WANT TO MAINTAIN ACADEMIC FREEDOM,

6 WHICH HAS PROVEN VALUE TO CREATIVE TEACHING AND

7 RESEARCH, WE NEED DISCIPLINES TO GUARANTEE

8 STANDARDS AND RIGOR. AND YET, IF WE BIND OURSELVES

9 TO THE DISTINCTIVE QUESTIONS AND LOGICS OF THE

10 VARIOUS DISCIPLINES, WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS

11 THE WORLD'S MOST IMPORTANT AND COMPLEX PROBLEMS AS

12 EFFECTIVELY AS WE WOULD LIKE TO DO.

13 THOUGH ON THE UPSIDE, DISCIPLINES FOSTER

14 INTENSE CRITICAL INTERACTION WITHIN A COMMUNITY OF

15 SCHOLARS, DISCIPLINARY THINKING CAN MAKE IT

16 DIFFICULT TO GENERATE SURE LINKS BETWEEN KNOWLEDGE

17 AND REFORM.

18 ANOTHER CURRENT DILEMMA WITH

19 TURN-OF-THE-CENTURY ORIGINS HAS TO DO WITH

20 EXPERTISE. WHO COULD SAY THEY WERE AGAINST

21 EXPERTISE? AND YET, WHO COULD NOT SHARE DEWEY AND

22 ADDAMS' CONCERN THAT IN A DEMOCRACY, EXPERTISE MUST

23 BE COMBINED WITH COMMON ACCESS TO KNOWLEDGE? THIS

24 WAS WHAT JOHN GARDNER WAS WORRIED ABOUT, I THINK,

25 WHEN HE SUBTITLED HIS BOOK CALLED EXCELLENCE WITH

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1 THE CLASSIC QUESTION: CAN WE BE EXCELLENT AND

2 EQUAL, TOO?

3 WHETHER THAT DILEMMA COULD EVER BE RESOLVED,

4 AT THE MOMENT WE KNOW MUCH MORE ABOUT HOW TO

5 CULTIVATE EXPERTISE THAN WE DO ABOUT HOW EVEN TO

6 CONCEIVE OF PROBLEMS OF PUBLIC EDUCATION IN THE

7 BROAD, NOT SCHOOL LIMITED, SENSE DEWEY OFTEN WROTE

8 ABOUT.

9 ONCE AGAIN, THEREFORE, WE LIVE WITH AN

10 IMPOSSIBLE CHOICE. THIS ONE PERTAINING TO THE

11 POLITICAL CONSEQUENCES OF EDUCATION. SHOULD WE

12 ACKNOWLEDGE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF EDUCATION BY

13 EXPLICITLY COUNTENANCING DIFFERENT LEVELS OF

14 POLITICAL ENFRANCHISEMENT; OR REGARDLESS OF

15 EDUCATION SHOULD WE INSTEAD FIND WAYS TO INSIST ON

16 ABSOLUTE EQUALITY IN MATTERS OF PUBLIC DELIBERATION

17 OR CHOICE? NEITHER ALTERNATIVE IS DESIRABLE, BUT

18 IT IS WITH THIS SORRY CHOICE THAT OUR CURRENT STATE

19 OF EDUCATIONAL CONFIDENCE AND POLITICAL IMAGINATION

20 LEAVES US.

21 WHAT THEN MIGHT WE DO? THE CHALLENGES

22 IMPLICIT IN THE TWO DILEMMAS I HAVE DESCRIBED ARE

23 HARDLY UNKNOWN, AND YET LITTLE THAT IS ENDURINGLY

24 AND WIDELY EFFECTIVE SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN DONE TO

25 ADDRESS THEM. PERHAPS, THEREFORE, WE NEED MORE

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1 HISTORICALLY SELF-CONSCIOUS WAYS OF THINKING ABOUT

2 THE PROBLEMS AND POSSIBILITIES WE FACE. BECAUSE

3 THE SYSTEM WE HAVE TODAY EMERGED FROM THE

4 TURN-OF-THE CENTURY TRANSFORMATION OF HIGHER

5 EDUCATION, WE MAY NEED TO RETURN TO THE CHOICES

6 MADE AND PATTERNS SET AT THAT TIME IN ORDER TO

7 IDENTIFY WAYS TO ADDRESS THE IMBALANCES AND

8 RESULTING DILEMMAS THAT ARE A LEGACY OF THAT ERA.

9 THIS WOULD INVOLVE TAKING UP WHERE DEWEY,

10 ADDAMS AND OTHERS OF THEIR ILK LEFT OFF AND

11 THINKING THROUGH QUESTIONS THEY NEVER ADDRESSED OR

12 PERHAPS EVEN FORMULATED. CENTRAL AMONG THEM, I

13 BELIEVE, ARE QUESTIONS OF TECHNOLOGY VERY MUCH OF

14 THE KIND PETER LYMANN WAS TALKING ABOUT YESTERDAY,

15 AND ALSO QUESTIONS OF STRATEGY AND PHILOSOPHY,

16 THOUGH MAYBE I SHOULD CALL THE LAST POLITICS.

17 THE QUESTIONS OF TECHNOLOGY I HAVE IN MIND, AS

18 PETER SUGGESTED, MAY SOME DAY, I DON'T BELIEVE

19 QUITE YET, BUT SOME DAY, BE ANSWERED BY THE

20 INTERNET. THEY HAVE TO DO WITH INVENTING NEW WAYS

21 FOR PEOPLE TO LEARN TO COMMUNICATE WELL ACROSS

22 SOCIAL DISTANCE SO THAT TOGETHER THEY CAN REACH

23 COMMON UNDERSTANDING AND GENERATE KNOWLEDGE THAT

24 MAY HELP TO RESOLVE COMMON PROBLEMS.

25 WHILE SUSTAINING AND IMPROVING THE DELIVERY

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1 SYSTEMS WE ALREADY HAVE FOR UNCOMMON LEARNING FOR

2 THE DEVELOPMENT OF EXPERTISE, WE NEED ALSO TO

3 INVENT NEW DELIVERY SYSTEMS THAT WILL PROMOTE

4 ENGAGEMENT IN COMMON LEARNING. WHETHER THOSE

5 DELIVERY SYSTEMS TAKE THE FORM OF NEW WAYS TO

6 ORGANIZE COLLEGE STUDY, NEW FUNDING FOR LIBRARY

7 OUTREACH OR NEW CORPORATE PERSONNEL SERVICES, THE

8 GOAL MUST BE TO BALANCE OUR ESTABLISHED CAPACITY TO

9 TRAIN PEOPLE FOR HIGHLY SKILLED OCCUPATIONS WITH A

10 NEW CAPACITY TO NURTURE CRITICAL AND YET

11 COLLABORATIVE DISPOSITIONS AND HABITS OF MIND.

12 AS WE ALL KNOW FROM THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE

13 BEEN HAVING, THIS IS ALREADY THE STATED GOAL OF

14 MANY INSTITUTIONS, BUT THIS BALANCE MUST NOW

15 ACTUALLY BE REALIZED IN THE EXPERIENCE OF MORE

16 PEOPLE; AND FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, WAYS WILL HAVE TO

17 BE IDENTIFIED TO ASK BOLD QUESTIONS OF TECHNOLOGY

18 AND INSTITUTIONAL REDESIGN, NOT MERELY AT WONDERFUL

19 CONFERENCES LIKE THIS, BUT IN A DETERMINED AND

20 SUSTAINED DAILY WAY.

21 CLOSELY RELATED TO THAT, EFFORTS TO CORRECT

22 HISTORIC IMBALANCES IN AMERICAN HIGHER EDUCATION

23 WILL REQUIRE ATTENTION TO QUESTIONS OF STRATEGY.

24 IT IS ALL WELL AND GOOD TO SUGGEST THAT COMMON

25 LEARNING MUST ASSUME A PRIORITY EQUAL TO UNCOMMON

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1 LEARNING, BUT THE FACT IS THAT WE LIVE IN A WORLD

2 FULL OF HIERARCHIES THAT ARE BUILT ON CREDENTIALS

3 AND STANDARDS, MOST OF WHICH REFLECT CHOICES AND

4 VALUES THAT ENCOURAGE EXCELLENCE AT THE EXPENSE OF

5 EQUALITY.

6 IN ADDITION, WE LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE IT IS

7 IMPOSSIBLE TO SEPARATE THE HIGHER EDUCATION SYSTEM

8 FROM BUSINESS, THE PROFESSIONS, THE MILITARY, THE

9 GOVERNMENT AND ANY NUMBER OF OTHER SYSTEMS. THAT

10 MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT TO INITIATE FUNDAMENTAL

11 SYSTEMIC CHANGE.

12 IF IT IS AS DIFFICULT TO CHANGE A COLLEGE

13 CURRICULUM AS IT IS, WHICH WE HAVE HEARD ABOUT,

14 WHICH RELATIVE TO CHANGING THE BALANCE AMONG THE

15 PURPOSES OF HIGHER EDUCATION IS BARELY TINKERING AT

16 THE MARGINS, IT IS HARD EVEN TO IMAGINE HOW ONE

17 MIGHT GO ABOUT THE KIND OF TRULY FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE

18 THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY IF LIBERAL EDUCATION WERE

19 TO BE RECONCEIVED AS A MEANS TO PROMOTE

20 PROBLEM-CENTERED WAYS OF THINKING AND TO BETTER

21 COMBINE THOSE WITH DISCIPLINE-BASED STYLES OF

22 THOUGHT.

23 IN RECENT YEARS, ANY NUMBER OF SCHOLARS HAVE

24 TURNED THEIR ATTENTION TO THE REFORM OF

25 UNDERGRADUATE EDUCATION, AND SOME HAVE ADVANCED

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1 PLANS THAT BUILD ON IDEAS OF EARLIER ADVOCATES OF

2 PRAGMATIC APPROACHES TO LIBERAL EDUCATION. I THINK

3 CHARLES ANDERSON HAS DONE THIS PERHAPS BETTER THAN

4 ANYBODY ELSE. IN ADDITION, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME

5 EXTREMELY INTERESTING EXPERIMENTS WITH CURRICULA.

6 WE HEARD ABOUT AT LEHIGH, AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF

7 PLACES THAT I THINK ECHO WHAT WE HEARD THERE.

8 THINKING STRATEGICALLY THE QUESTION IS, THEN,

9 ASSUMING THERE IS VALUE IN SUCH PROBLEM-CENTERED,

10 PRAGMATIC APPROACHES TO LIBERAL LEARNING, HOW CAN

11 DISCRETE, SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT AND YET ESSENTIALLY

12 COMPATIBLE PROPOSALS BE SYNTHESIZED AND PUT TO THE

13 TEST; AND WHEN THEY ARE PUT TO THE TEST, HOW COULD

14 THE IMPLICATIONS OF THESE SYNTHESIZED IDEAS BE

15 CONSIDERED NOT ONLY IN TERMS OF THE DIRECT

16 EFFECTIVENESS, BUT ALSO IN TERMS OF THEIR

17 IMPLICATIONS FOR CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE IN

18 PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS, BUSINESS PRACTICES,

19 GOVERNMENT REGULATIONS AND THE LIKE?

20 WHETHER THAT CAN EVER BE DONE, QUESTIONS OF

21 STRATEGY AND OF TECHNOLOGY WILL NEED TO BE COMBINED

22 WITH QUESTIONS OF PHILOSOPHY OR POLITICS, IF THE

23 DILEMMAS FACING AMERICAN HIGHER EDUCATION ARE TO

24 RECEIVE NOT ONLY THE PERSISTENT, BUT ALSO THE

25 HONEST AND EVEN SOUL-SEARCHING ATTENTION THAT THEY

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1 REQUIRE.

2 AND INTERESTINGLY, THOUGH, TROY DUSTER WAS

3 REALLY TALKING ABOUT THESE QUESTIONS LAST NIGHT,

4 AND THEY HAVE COME UP MUCH LESS THAN SOME OF THE

5 OTHER KINDS OF QUESTIONS, I THINK, THAT WE NEED TO

6 CONSIDER. DO WE REALLY WANT TO SEE OURSELVES AND

7 TO BE SEEN AS EQUAL TO OUR NEIGHBORS? JOHN DEWEY

8 AND JANE ADDAMS TENDED TO ASSUME, OR AT LEAST THEY

9 HOPED, AS I THINK WE HOPE WHEN WE SAY WE'RE ALL

10 LIBERAL, THAT WE DO WANT TO BE EQUAL. BUT IN 1997,

11 IT IS NOT SELF-EVIDENT THAT SUCH ASSUMPTIONS ARE

12 VALID OR AT LEAST WIDELY VALID.

13 DO WE REALLY WANT TO EDUCATE ALL YOUNG PEOPLE

14 TO BE FULLY AND EQUALLY ENFRANCHISED CITIZENS, OR

15 IN THE END, DO WE WANT TO SORT THEM AND TRAIN THEM

16 FOR THE JOBS AND SOCIAL ROLES THAT ALREADY EXIST IN

17 THE WORLD TODAY?

18 DO WE REALLY WANT TO LIBERATE, WITH ALL THAT

19 COULD SUGGEST, FOR INDEPENDENT THOUGHT AND EVEN

20 SOCIAL CHANGE; OR DO WE MERELY WANT TO FURNISH AND

21 DISCIPLINE YOUNG MINDS WHICH, AS LUKE MENAND

22 REMINDED US SEVERAL DAYS AGO, IS IN SOME WAYS AN

23 EQUIVALENT, A 19TH CENTURY EQUIVALENT TO WHAT WE

24 NOW CALL TEACHING CRITICAL THINKING? DO WE REALLY

25 WANT TO WORK ON PROBLEMS OF POVERTY; OR ARE WE

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1 CONTENT MERELY TO STUDY THEM?

2 NOW USUALLY SET OFF IN COURSES ON ETHICS OR IN

3 PRIVATE DISCUSSIONS OF RELIGIOUS AND POLITICAL

4 BELIEFS, PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTIONS OF THIS KIND NEED

5 TO BE REINTRODUCED INTO THE CORE OF SCIENTIFIC AND

6 SOCIAL STUDIES.

7 AND THAT BRINGS ME FULL CIRCLE, FINALLY. THE

8 MODERN AMERICAN SYSTEM OF HIGHER EDUCATION IS

9 INDISPUTABLY, I THINK, THE PREEMINENT SYSTEM IN THE

10 WORLD WHICH SHOULD BE ACKNOWLEDGED AND SHOULD BE

11 CELEBRATED. AND YET WHILE WE DO THAT, IT OBVIOUSLY

12 MAKES SENSE ALSO TO PONDER HOW AMERICAN HIGHER

13 EDUCATION MIGHT STILL BE FURTHER IMPROVED.

14 KNOWING HOW TO DEVELOP HIGH LEVELS OF

15 KNOWLEDGE AND HOW TO ENHANCE THE COMPETENCE OF THE

16 ALREADY COMPETENT IS NOT THE SAME AS KNOWING HOW TO

17 DEVELOP AND TEST KNOWLEDGE IN RELATION TO THE

18 PROBLEMS OF MEETING AND SOCIAL CONNECTION THAT

19 CONFRONT US TODAY.

20 FINDING WAYS TO DO THAT WILL REQUIRE

21 CONTINUING CONSIDERATION OF HOW THE POSSIBILITIES

22 FOR DEMOCRACY AND COMMON LEARNING GLIMPSED BY

23 PROGRESSIVES LIKE DEWEY AND ADDAMS, AND FIGURING

24 OUT HOW THOSE IDEAS CAN BE RECOVERED AND COMBINED

25 WITH THE BELIEFS AND PRACTICES ADVOCATED BY PEOPLE

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1 LIKE ELIOT AND LIPPMANN.

2 TO ADVANCE PRAGMATIC APPROACHES TO LIBERAL

3 EDUCATION, MANY PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO ENGAGE IN

4 PRAGMATIC LIBERAL EDUCATION, AS PERHAPS WE'RE DOING

5 THIS WEEKEND. THROUGH EXCHANGES OF KNOWLEDGE AND

6 EXPERIENCE, THEY WILL HAVE TO BUILD NEW PLANS OF

7 ACTION THAT CAN BE TESTED AND REFINED IN THE LIVED

8 PURPOSES AND PRACTICES OF COLLEGES, UNIVERSITIES,

9 AND THE SURROUNDING INSTITUTIONS WITH WHICH THEY

10 INTERACT.

11 IF WAYS CAN BE FOUND TO COLLABORATE FOR THAT

12 PURPOSE, PERHAPS WE WILL HAVE FINALLY ENLARGED THE

13 NARROW ACADEMIC CLOSETS THAT DEWEY AND ADDAMS

14 DIDN'T GO INTO.

15 (Applaud)

16 MR. STANLEY KATZ: IT'S MOST GRATIFYING TO

17 HEAR A SPEAKER NAIL A DILEMMA THAT YOU IMPALE

18 YOURSELF ON YOUR OWN PAPER, AND I'M GRATEFUL TO HER

19 FOR DOING THAT.

20 THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JAMES KLOPPENBERG. I'M

21 HAVING TO SAY I'M FALLING INTO THE DILEMMA THAT

22 ELLEN JUST POINTED OUT BECAUSE I FIND MYSELF FILLED

23 WITH PRIDE THAT WE HAVE THREE HISTORIANS UP HERE,

24 AND I CONFESS TO THINKING THAT HISTORY IS A

25 UNIQUELY PRIVILEGED WAY OF THINKING ABOUT THE

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1 WORLD, BUT I WILL FIGHT THAT.

2 (Laughter)

3 JIM WAS TRAINED FIRST AT STANFORD WHERE HE

4 WORKED IN HISTORY AND IN HUMANITIES, A JOINT

5 PROGRAM, AND HE SEEMS, ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT CLEAR FROM

6 THE RESUME', TO ALSO HAVE WORKED IN FOREIGN

7 LANGUAGES BECAUSE HE BEGAN HIS CAREER TEACHING

8 FRENCH LANGUAGE AT DARTMOUTH COLLEGE. BUT HE

9 SHORTLY MOVED TO BRANDEIS UNIVERSITY WHERE HE IS A

10 PROFESSOR IN THE HISTORY DEPARTMENT, AND HE HAS

11 BEEN THERE NOW FOR SOME YEARS. HE WENT THERE IN

12 1980.

13 JIM IS THE EMBODIMENT OF SOME TERRIBLY

14 IMPORTANT DEVELOPMENT IN THE FIELD OF HISTORY IN

15 THE LAST GENERATION, WHICH IS THE RECOGNITION OF

16 INTELLECTUAL HISTORY, A FIELD THAT HAD FALLEN INTO

17 DISUSE AND REALLY DISRESPECT AT THE TIME I WAS IN

18 GRADUATE SCHOOL AND ONLY SUBSEQUENTLY HAS REEMERGED

19 AS ONE OF THE GREAT FIELDS, AND JIM IS ONE OF THE

20 MOST DISTINGUISHED PRACTITIONERS OF IT.

21 HIS BIG BOOK, UNCERTAIN VICTORY: SOCIAL

22 DEMOCRACY AND PROGRESSIVISM IN EUROPEAN AND

23 AMERICAN THOUGHT, 1870 TO 1920, HAS BEEN AN

24 ENORMOUSLY INFLUENTIAL BOOK. IT IS OBVIOUSLY A

25 VERY IMPORTANT BOOK. HE WON THE {}MERCURDY AWARD

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1 FOR THAT, WHICH IS AN ORGANIZATION OF AMERICAN

2 HISTORIANS' PRIZE FOR THE BEST BOOK OF INTELLECTUAL

3 HISTORY WRITTEN IN A TWO-YEAR HISTORY. SO IT'S A

4 BIG PRIZE AND A JUSTIFIABLE ONE.

5 THE BOOK WAS ALSO NOMINATED FOR THE PULITZER

6 PRIZE. PLEASE LOOK AT HIS RESUME' TO SEE THAT

7 THERE IS TWICE ACLS AWARDS. THOSE AREN'T EASY TO

8 GET. HE HAS A NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT HE'S WORKING

9 ON AT THE MOMENT, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, ALL I

10 KNOW IS WHAT I READ ON THE RESUME', BUT TO SHOW YOU

11 THAT HE DOESN'T THINK SMALL, ONE OF THEM IS CALLED

12 DEMOCRACY IN EUROPE AND AMERICA, 1640 TO 1990.

13 (Laughter)

14 ANOTHER IS THE VIRTUES OF LIBERALISM, AMERICAN

15 POLITICAL IDEAS, AND THERE ARE OTHERS. A NUMBER OF

16 US HAVE READ THE PIECE THAT HE PUBLISHED IN THE

17 JOURNAL OF AMERICAN HISTORY THIS PAST SUMMER ON

18 DEWEY, A WONDERFUL PIECE, CERTAINLY THE MOST

19 HELPFUL AND INSIGHTFUL ONE I'VE READ IN A LONG

20 TIME. SO I GIVE YOU JIM KLOPPENBERG.

21 ASSOCIATE PROF. KLOPPENBERG: THANK YOU VERY

22 MUCH, STAN. THAT WAS VERY GENEROUS. AT LAST YOU

23 HEAR FROM THE PERSON WHO GROUNDED SO MANY OF YOUR

24 FLIGHTS DOWN HERE. COMING TO CENTRAL FLORIDA IN

25 MID FEBRUARY IS A DREAM COME TRUE FOR ME. OF

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1 COURSE, WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, IT WAS A DREAM ABOUT

2 COMING DOWN FOR THE RED SOX FOR SPRING TRAINING,

3 BUT I WAS DESTINED INSTEAD TO BE COMING DOWN TO BE

4 AMONG PEOPLE WHO MAKE METAPHORS ABOUT BASEBALL

5 INSTEAD. DON'T WORRY, BOB, I'LL KEEP MY METAPHORS

6 TO MYSELF.

7 BUT IN ANOTHER SENSE, THIS CONFERENCE IS A

8 DREAM COME TRUE BECAUSE IT'S ENABLED ME TO THINK

9 HARD FOR SEVERAL DAYS AND IN THE COMPANY OF A

10 REALLY REMARKABLY TALENTED GROUP OF SCHOLARS AND

11 ACADEMIC LEADERS ABOUT THE TWO ISSUES THAT HAVE

12 BEEN AT THE CENTER OF MY OWN SCHOLARLY LIFE,

13 PRAGMATISM AND LIBERAL EDUCATION.

14 SO I WANT TO THANK RITA BORNSTEIN AND BOB

15 ORRILL FOR INVITING ME. AS SOMEONE WHO'S NOT A

16 SPECIALIST IN HIGHER EDUCATION, I WAS AT FIRST

17 SKEPTICAL ABOUT WHAT I COULD CONTRIBUTE TO SUCH A

18 CONFERENCE. WHEN THEY DECIDED TO CIRCULATE THAT

19 ARTICLE ON PRAGMATISM, I WAS FLATTERED, BUT I WAS

20 STILL SOMEWHAT UNEASY.

21 THE VERY FIRST PERSON I MET WHEN I ARRIVED

22 HERE, ELLEN HURWITZ OF ALBRIGHT COLLEGE, CONFIRMED

23 THOSE SUSPICIONS. SHE TOLD ME THAT SHE ENJOYED

24 READING THE PIECE, BUT THEN ASKED ME THE QUESTION I

25 SUPPOSE MOST OF YOU HAVE BEEN ASKING YOURSELF, WHAT

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1 DOES THIS STUFF HAVE TO DO WITH LIBERAL EDUCATION?

2 IT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION, AND IT'S A QUESTION THAT

3 I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS IN THESE REMARKS THIS MORNING.

4 I WANT TO BEGIN BY TALKING FOR A FEW MINUTES

5 ABOUT WILLIAM JAMES, AS DAVID LEERY HAS URGED US TO

6 DO ON SEVERAL POINTS DURING THESE PROCEEDINGS,

7 JAMES' IDEAS PROVIDE ANOTHER DIMENSION OF

8 PRAGMATISM THAT I THINK CAN ENRICH OUR

9 UNDERSTANDING OF THE RELATION BETWEEN PRAGMATISM

10 AND LIBERAL EDUCATION.

11 NOT ONLY DID JAMES HAVE A POWERFUL EFFECT ON

12 JOHN DEWEY, HE WAS ALSO THE TEACHER OF W.E.B.

13 DUBOIS AND HORACE KALLEN, WHOM TROY DUSTER QUITE

14 PROPERLY QUOTED LAST NIGHT IN HIS DISCUSSION OF

15 CULTURAL PLURALISM. I WANT TO TALK IN PARTICULAR

16 ABOUT TWO ESSAYS THAT JAMES FIRST PUBLISHED AT THE

17 CONCLUSION OF A BOOK ENTITLED, APPROPRIATELY ENOUGH

18 FOR OUR PURPOSES, TALKS TO TEACHERS ON PSYCHOLOGY

19 AND TO STUDENTS ON SOME OF LIFE'S IDEALS.

20 THE FIRST OF THESE ESSAYS, "ON A CERTAIN

21 BLINDNESS IN HUMAN BEINGS," PROBES OUR INABILITY TO

22 UNDERSTAND THE SOURCES OF DELIGHT FOR INDIVIDUALS

23 OTHER THAN OURSELVES. BUT MISSING THE JOY THAT

24 OTHERS FIND IN THEIR EXPERIENCE ROBS US OF THE MOST

25 ENRICHING DIMENSION OF LIFE, THE BROADENING AND

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1 DEEPENING OF THE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT IS TO BE

2 HUMAN.

3 WE OFTEN MISS THAT DEPTH BECAUSE WE LOOK ONLY

4 AT THE EXTERNALS OR THE SURFACE LEVEL OF THOSE

5 PEOPLE WE KNOW, EVEN THOSE WE KNOW PRETTY WELL.

6 OUR CHALLENGE, JAMES INSISTS, IS TO SEE BEYOND THAT

7 CERTAIN BLINDNESS, TO SEE THE PROFOUND HUMAN

8 SIGNIFICANCE IN THE EVERYDAY, AS WORDSWORTH AND

9 WHITMAN AND TOLSTOY DID, TO MAKE OURSELVES

10 RECEPTIVE TO GRASPING WHAT JAMES CALLED THE

11 UNFATHOMABLE SIGNIFICANCE AND IMPORTANCE OF EVERY

12 HUMAN LIFE.

13 THE MOST HIGHLY EDUCATED, JAMES OBSERVED --

14 AND THAT INCLUDES EVERYONE AT THIS COLLOQUY -- THE

15 MOST HIGHLY EDUCATED FIND THIS ESPECIALLY DIFFICULT

16 BECAUSE WE ONLY SEE THE BANALITY OF THE SURFACE OF

17 ORDINARY LIFE AND THUS TO MISS THE TINGLING

18 RICHNESS BENEATH. INSTEAD JAMES URGES IN A PASSAGE

19 ALREADY QUOTED BY ELIZABETH MINNICH, WHICH I'LL

20 QUOTE AGAIN BECAUSE OF THE PROBLEM OF AMNESIA THAT

21 LEE SHULMAN IDENTIFIED FOR US, JAMES URGED THAT WE

22 SHOULD STEADFASTLY RESIST PRONOUNCING ON THE

23 MEANINGLESSNESS OF FORMS OF EXISTENCE OTHER THAN

24 OUR OWN, AND INSTEAD TOLERATE, RESPECT AND INDULGE

25 THOSE WHOM WE SEE HARMLESSLY INTERESTED AND HAPPY

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1 IN THEIR OWN WAYS HOWEVER UNINTELLIGIBLE THOSE MAY

2 BE TO US. HANDS OFF. NEITHER THE WHOLE OF TRUTH

3 NOR THE WHOLE OF GOOD IS REVEALED TO ANY SINGLE

4 OBSERVER, ALTHOUGH EACH OBSERVER GAINS A PARTIAL

5 SUPERIORITY OF INSIGHT FROM THE PECULIAR POSITION

6 IN WHICH HE STANDS.

7 NOW, BEFORE I ATTEMPT TO RELATE THAT INSIGHT

8 ABOUT PERSPECTURALISM AND DIVERSITY WITH JAMES'

9 COSMOPOLITAN PRAGMATISM AND THEN TO CONNECT THAT

10 WITH LIBERAL EDUCATION, I WANTED TO SAY ABOUT THE

11 COMPANION ESSAY, "WHAT MAKES A LIFE SIGNIFICANT,"

12 AN ESSAY THAT IS EVERY BIT AS ARRESTING AS ITS

13 TITLE SUGGESTS. I REMEMBER VIVIDLY THE MIXTURE OF

14 SATISFACTION AND UNEASINESS I FELT WHEN A READER OF

15 AN EARLY DRAFT OF ONE OF THE CHAPTERS OF MY

16 DISSERTATION TOLD ME THAT THE PRINCIPAL VALUE OF

17 READING THAT CHAPTER HAD BEEN THAT IT PROMPTED HIM

18 TO GO READ THIS ESSAY BY WILLIAM JAMES. I, OF

19 COURSE, RATHER HOPED THAT THE VALUE WOULD BE THE

20 PENETRATING INSIGHTS FROM THE CHAPTER ITSELF, BUT I

21 COULD UNDERSTAND WHAT HE MEANT. I FEEL MUCH THE

22 SAME WAY THIS MORNING.

23 IF I SUCCEED IN THESE REMARKS IN EVEN

24 PERSUADING A FEW YOU OF TO GO BACK AND READ "WHAT

25 MAKES A LIFE SIGNIFICANT," I'LL BE CONTENT. JAMES

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1 BEGINS WITH A REMINDER THAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR US

2 IN THIS WEEKEND OF VALENTINE'S DAY.

3 EVERY JACK, JAMES WRITES, SEES IN HIS OWN

4 PARTICULAR JILL CHARMS AND PERFECTIONS TO THE

5 ENCHANTMENT OF WHICH WE STOLID OBSERVERS ARE

6 STONE-COLD. NOW, WE SOPHISTICATED OBSERVERS ARE

7 ESPECIALLY QUICK TO JUDGE JACK DELUDED, JAMES

8 WROTE, AND EVEN QUICKER TO SEE IN JACK'S

9 EXAGGERATIONS OF JILL'S VIRTUES EVIDENCE OF A

10 QUAINT BUT UNFORTUNATE FOLLY.

11 INSTEAD, JAMES ADVISES, WE OURSELVES ARE

12 VICTIMS OF WHAT HE TERMS A PATHOLOGICAL ANESTHESIA,

13 AS REGARDS JILL'S MAGICAL IMPORTANCE. FOR THE

14 PROFOUNDER TRUTHS ARE REVEALED TO JACK AND NOT TO

15 US. SURELY, JAMES WRITES, POOR JILL'S PALPITATING

16 LITTLE LIFE THROBS ARE AMONG THE WONDERS OF

17 CREATION, ARE WORTHY OF THIS SYMPATHETIC INTEREST,

18 AND IT IS TO OUR SHAME THAT THE REST OF US CANNOT

19 FEEL LIKE JACK, FOR JACK STRUGGLES TOWARD A UNION

20 WITH JILL'S INNER LIFE, DIVINING HER FEELINGS,

21 ANTICIPATING HER DESIRES, UNDERSTANDING HER LIMITS

22 AS BEST HE CAN.

23 JILL, WHO KNOWS HER INNER LIFE, KNOWS THAT

24 JACK'S WAY OF TAKING IT, SO IMPORTANTLY, IS THE

25 TRUE AND SERIOUS WAY, AND SHE RESPONDS TO THE TRUTH

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1 IN HIM BY TAKING HIM TRULY AND SERIOUSLY, TOO.

2 NOW, AT FIRST GLANCE THIS SEEMS TO US A BIT OF

3 INTELLECTUAL AND EMOTIONAL SLUMMING BY JAMES.

4 ANOTHER EVIDENCE OF THE CREDULOUS WILLINGNESS TO

5 ATTRIBUTE PROFOUND HUMAN VALUE TO THE MOST

6 UNIMPORTANT SENTIMENTAL NONSENSE. JUST THE SORT OF

7 FLABBY THINKING THAT DROVE HIS CRITICS CRAZE.

8 JAMES DIRECTS HIS ATTENTION TO THE

9 UNSENTIMENTAL CYNICS IN HIS AUDIENCE, AND I THINK

10 LIKEWISE ENGAGES US, HIS EVEN MORE UNSENTIMENTAL,

11 AND EVEN MORE CYNICAL READERS A CENTURY LATER.

12 WHERE WOULD ANY OF US BE, HE ASKS, WERE THERE NO

13 ONE WILLING TO KNOW US AS WE REALLY ARE AND READY

14 TO REPAY US FOR OUR INSIGHT BY MAKING RECOGNIZANT

15 RETURN?

16 WE OUGHT ALL OF US, HE URGES, TO REALIZE EACH

17 OTHER IN THIS WAY. WE SHOULD LEARN NOT TO EXCLUDE

18 THOSE WHO ARE NOT PART OF OUR CHARMED CIRCLES NOR

19 POISON SUCH SYMPATHETIC UNDERSTANDING WITH THE

20 PETTY JEALOUSIES THAT TOO OFTEN SOUR WHAT JAMES

21 CALLS ORDINARY JACK AND JILL AFFECTION. PRECISELY

22 THE EFFORT TO UNDERSTAND EVERY OTHER PERSON FROM

23 WITHIN, FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF HIS OR HER OWN MOST

24 PRECIOUS ASPIRATIONS, JAMES OFFERS AS THE IDEAL FOR

25 WHICH WE SHOULD STRIVE.

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1 SO HOW SHOULD WE GO ABOUT IT, AND WHAT DOES IT

2 HAVE TO DO WITH MAKING A LIFE SIGNIFICANT? AS THE

3 ESSAY UNFOLDS, JAMES ENTERTAINS AND THEN DISMISSES

4 SEVERAL STRATEGIES THAT MIGHT BE OFFERED TO HELP US

5 REACH THIS BROADER GOAL OF MAKING OUR LIVES

6 SIGNIFICANT.

7 HE FIRST DESCRIBES THE PLEASANT BUT SANITIZED

8 EXPERIENCE OF MIDDLE-CLASS REFINEMENT, EDUCATION,

9 AND CONTENTENT HE OBSERVED AT CHAUTAUQUA, NEW YORK,

10 WHICH WAS PERHAPS THE CLOSEST THING IN HIS

11 EXPERIENCE TO A VISIT TO DISNEY WORLD CELEBRATION,

12 THE NEW DISNEY-PLANNED COMMUNITY OUTSIDE OF ORLANDO

13 AND ROLLINS COLLEGE.

14 AFTER ADMITTING THE APPEAL OF CHAUTAUQUA,

15 JAMES DISMISSES THE COMMUNITY AS EVIDENCE FOR HIS

16 FEAR IN HIS THAT AN IRREMEDIABLE FLATNESS IS COMING

17 OVER THE WORLD WHICH THREATENS TO EXTINGUISH THE

18 ELEMENT OF PRECIPITOUSNESS THAT MAKES POSSIBLE

19 HUMAN GREATNESS.

20 CLEARLY WHEN HE WAS AT CHAUTAUQUA, HE DIDN'T

21 SAY THAT'S SOMETHING LIKE THE HOTEL LANGFORD NOR

22 HAVE TO DODGE MOTORCYCLES CROSSING FAIRBANKS TO GET

23 TO THESE LECTURES.

24 NOW, AFTER ADMITTING THE APPEAL OF THIS LIFE,

25 JAMES DISMISSES IT AND CONSIDERS AS ANOTHER

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1 POSSIBLE SOURCE OF HUMAN SIGNIFICANCE THE SPECTACLE

2 OF HARD HUMAN LABOR; WHETHER IT'S IN FACTORIES OR

3 MINES, FIGHTING FIRES OR BUILDING BRIDGES. BUT AS

4 A GENERAL PROPOSITION, THIS, TOO, FAILS TO SATISFY

5 JAMES, BECAUSE WE CANNOT ASSUME THAT SUCH WORK

6 BRINGS TO THOSE WHO DO IT THE SAME ENNOBLING

7 SIGNIFICANCE ATTRIBUTED TO IT BY POETS WHO VIEW IT

8 FROM A DISTANCE.

9 JAMES CONCLUDES THAT INTENSE EXPERIENCE CAN

10 HAVE SUCH A SIGNIFICANCE ONLY WHEN, IN HIS WORDS,

11 THE INNER JOY, COURAGE AND ENDURANCE ARE JOINED

12 WITH AN IDEAL. MOREOVER, SUCH IDEALS MUST NOT

13 EXIST MERELY AS OBJECTS OF CONTEMPLATION. TO HAVE

14 MEANING AND POWER, HE ARGUES, THEIR SENTIMENTAL

15 SURFACE MUST BE MULTIPLIED BY THE DIMENSION OF

16 ACTIVE WILL IF WE ARE TO HAVE DEPTH, IF WE ARE TO

17 HAVE ANYTHING CUBICAL AND SOLID IN THE WAY OF

18 CHARACTER.

19 SO THE MERE ENTERTAINING OF HIGH IDEALS, THE

20 SORT OF ACTIVITY THAT COLLEGE PROFESSORS AND

21 ADMINISTRATORS TYPICALLY ENGAGE IN WHEN THEY GATHER

22 IN CONFERENCES TO THINK ABOUT LIBERAL EDUCATION IS,

23 BY ITSELF, JAMES WARNS, NOT TERRIBLY IMPORTANT.

24 FOR THE IDEALS TAKEN BY THEMSELVES GIVE NO REALITY;

25 THE VIRUES BY THEMSELVES NO NOVELTY.

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1 WHAT MATTERS, INSTEAD, IS THAT STRANGE UNION

2 OF REALITY WITH IDEAL NOVELTY AND RECOGNIZING SUCH

3 NEW FORMS OF THE IDEAL IS, JAMES ARGUES, THE TASK

4 OF WHAT WE CALL INTELLIGENCE. SO, HE REASONS,

5 CULTURE AND REFINEMENT ALL ALONE ARE NOT ENOUGH,

6 IDEAL ASPIRATIONS AREN'T ENOUGH WHEN UNCOMBINED

7 WITH PLUCK AND WILL. BUT NEITHER ARE PLUCK AND

8 WILL, DOGGED ENDURANCE AND INSENSIBILITY TO DANGER

9 ENOUGH, WHEN TAKEN ALL ALONE. THERE MUST SOME SORT

10 OF FUSION, SOME CHEMICAL COMBINATION AMONG THESE

11 PRINCIPLES FOR A LIFE OBJECTIVELY AND THOROUGHLY

12 SIGNIFICANT TO RESULT.

13 NOW, SOME OF YOU HAVE NO DOUBT ALREADY FIGURED

14 OUT WHERE I'M GOING WITH ALL THIS; OTHERS MAY BE

15 WONDERING WHY JAMES' MUSINGS ON A CERTAIN BLINDNESS

16 AND HUMAN SIGNIFICANCE HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANCE FOR US

17 HERE THIS MORNING OR ANY MORE SIGNIFICANCE THAN MY

18 ARTICLE ON PRAGMATISM FOR LIBERAL EDUCATION.

19 I'D SAY THE PRAGMATIC DIMENSIONS OF THESE TWO

20 LECTURES CAN BE STATED SIMPLY IN TERMS THAT

21 RESONATE WITH MUCH OF WHAT WE'VE HEARD DURING THIS

22 COLLOQUY. IN HIS KEYNOTE ADDRESS, LUKE MENAND

23 ARGUED PERSUASIVELY THAT THE GOALS OF THE LIBERAL

24 EDUCATION INCLUDE SYMPATHY, CURIOSITY, A SENSE OF

25 PRINCIPLE AND INDEPENDENT MINDEDNESS. JAMES' POINT

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1 WAS MUCH THE SAME: BECAUSE KNOWLEDGE DERIVES FROM

2 EXPERIENCE, TRUTHS CANNOT BE CONSIDERED ABSOLUTE,

3 AND DIVERSITY OF EXPERIENCE WILL LEAD TO DIVERSITY

4 OF BELIEFS.

5 BUT THAT AWARENESS NEED NOT MAKE US EITHER

6 BLIND TO EACH OTHER OR INTOLERANT OF SUCH

7 DIVERSITY. INSTEAD, THE PRAGMATIC SENSIBILITY THAT

8 JAMES DESCRIBES IS UNUSUALLY ALERT TO THE INTERNAL

9 SIGNIFICANCE OF THE ALTERNATE PERCEPTIONS AND

10 VALUATIONS OF PEOPLE UNLIKE OURSELVES AND UNUSUALLY

11 SYMPATHETIC TO VARIOUS ATTEMPTS TO REALIZE

12 DIFFERENT IDEALS.

13 JAMES' PRAGMATISM CELEBRATES DIVERSITY AND

14 CONDEMNS INTOLERANCE. IT CONDEMNS IDLE SPECULATION

15 AND CELEBRATES THE ATTEMPT TO REALIZE THE IDEALS OF

16 SYMPATHY AND EXPERIMENTATION IN THE PRACTICE OF

17 EVERYDAY LIFE. IT IS THAT CONSCIOUS, STRENUOUS

18 EFFORT THAT MAKES A LIFE SIGNIFICANT.

19 FOR THOSE OF US WHO LIVE OUR LIVES IN COLLEGES

20 AND UNIVERSITIES DEVOTED TO THE PRACTICE OF THE

21 LIBERAL ARTS, THESE ARE POTENTIALLY INSTRUCTIVE

22 INSIGHTS. THEY POINT US AWAY FROM EXCLUSIVE

23 EMPHASIS ON THE CLASSICS OR THE CANON AS A FIXED

24 BODY OF TEXT THAT DOES NOT CHANGE AS CULTURES

25 DEVELOP.

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1 THEY ALSO POINT US AWAY FROM THE EXCLUSIVE

2 EMPHASIS ON TEACHING SKILLS, WITHOUT ALSO EXPOSING

3 STUDENTS TO THE WIDE RANGE OF SUBSTANTIVE IDEAS

4 ABOUT HUMAN EXPERIENCE AND HUMAN EXCELLENCE THAT

5 WILL EXPAND THE HORIZONS BEYOND THOSE THEY BRING

6 WITH THEM TO COLLEGE.

7 JAMES' IDEAS ABOUT BLINDNESS AND SIGNIFICANCE

8 INDICATE THE IMPORTANCE OF HELPING OUR STUDENTS

9 BECOME HUMAN BEINGS CAPABLE OF THINKING CREATIVELY

10 AND SYMPATHIZING IMAGINATIVELY WITH OTHERS. THEY

11 SUGGEST THE IMPORTANCE OF TYING THE TEXTS OR THE

12 CASES OR THE PROBLEMS WE TEACH TO THE LIVES OUR

13 STUDENTS ARE ENVISIONING FOR THEMSELVES AFTER THEY

14 LEAVE US, LIVES WE WANT TO HELP THEM LEARN HOW TO

15 MAKE SIGNIFICANT.

16 WHAT I MEAN BY COSMOPOLITAN PRAGMATISM IS

17 PRECISELY THIS EMPHASIS ON FOSTERING A BROAD

18 PERSPECTIVE THAT UNDERTAKES TO UNDERSTAND AND

19 RESPECT THE PERSPECTIVES OF OTHERS, THAT PRIZES THE

20 IDEAL OF RECIPROCITY AND THAT RECOGNIZES THE

21 DESIRABILITY OF CARRYING THAT PRACTICE OF

22 DELIBERATION AS A MEANS OF TRUTH TESTING AND

23 PROBLEM SOLVING OUT OF THE REALM OF ABSTRATION AND

24 INTO DAILY LIFE.

25 NOW, TEMPTING AS IT IS TO DESCRIBE THE IDEALS

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1 AND IDEAS OF COSMOPOLITAL PRAGMATISM IN GREATER

2 DETAIL, I WILL RESIST BECAUSE THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE

3 WORKED THROUGH THAT ESSAY OF MINE KNOW MORE THAN

4 YOU MIGHT LIKE TO KNOW ALREADY ABOUT MY IDEAS ON

5 PRAGMATISM OLD AND NEW. SO I'M NOT GOING TO WORRY

6 ANY FURTHER ABOUT AMNESIA OR ILLUSORY

7 UNDERSTANDING. I THINK YOU'VE HEARD VERSIONS OF

8 THESE IDEAS ADVANCED TOO MANY TIMES AND BY TOO MANY

9 PERSUASIVE PEOPLE THIS WEEKEND FOR YOU TO FORGET

10 THESE IDEAS OR FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THEM TO BE

11 ILLUSORY. SO I'LL NOT ELABORATE FURTHER ON THESE

12 IDEAS OR ON THE REASONS WHY I WOULD DISTINGUISH

13 THEM FROM THE PRAGMATISM OF RICHARD RORTY AND OTHER

14 TEXUALISTS IN THE CURRENT DEBATES OVER PRAGMATISM;

15 OR WHY I WOULD CONNECT THEM INSTEAD WITH

16 CONTEMPORARY PHILOSOPHERS WHO SHARE THE EARLIER

17 PRAGMATISTS' CONVICTIONS WHICH ELIZABETH MINNICH

18 QUITE PROPERLY CHARACTERIZED AS DEEPLY MORAL AND

19 POLITICAL.

20 INSTEAD, I WANT TO CONSIDER THE RELATION

21 BETWEEN THIS KIND OF COSMOPOLITAL PRAGMATISM AND

22 THE PRACTICE OF LIBERAL EDUCATION AT THE END OF THE

23 20TH CENTURY. IF WE TAKE SERIOUSLY THE IDEAS OF

24 THESE PRAGMATISTS AND THEIR STRATEGIES, WE SHOULD

25 REDOUBLE OUR EFFORTS IN HIGHER EDUCATION TO BALANCE

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1 THE GOALS OF INDIVIDUALIZATION AND SOCIALIZATION AS

2 DEWEY ARGUED IN HIS DISCUSSION OF PRIMARY AND

3 SECONDARY SCHOOLS IN DEMOCRACY AND EDUCATION AND AS

4 THOMAS EHRLICH'S ARGUMENT ON FRIDAY.

5 JACK LANE, WHO IN HIS ESSAY ON THE ROLLINS

6 CONFERENCE OF 1931 AND THE SEARCH FOR A PROGRESSIVE

7 LIBERAL EDUCATION POINTED OUT THAT IN THE LAST 65

8 YEARS SOME COLLEGES HAVE TENDED TO EMPHASIZE

9 OFFERING STUDENTS LOTS OF OPTIONS MAKES IT CLEAR

10 THAT LETTING INTERNSHIPS AND INDEPENDENT STUDIES

11 AND SELF-DIRECTED PROGRAMS PROLIFERATE IN ORDER TO

12 SATISFY STUDENT INTERESTS STANDS AT A DISTANCE FROM

13 WHAT DEWEY HAD IN MIND.

14 DEWEY ALWAYS EMPHASIZED BY CONTRAST THAT

15 INTERESTS MUST NOT BE TREATED AS BRUTE BUT INSTEAD

16 MUST BE DEVELOPED, NURTURED AND HELPED TO MATURE

17 THROUGH DISCIPLINE AND THROUGH EDUCATION.

18 I BELIEVE AN OVEREMPHASIS ON EACH COLLEGE

19 STUDENT'S QUALITY OF LIFE IS A SERIOUS MISTAKE. I

20 BELIEVE WE MUST EMPHASIZE INSTEAD THE IMPORTANCE OF

21 WHAT GOES ON IN THE CLASSROOM AND THE LIBRARY AND

22 THE LABORATORY, BECAUSE AS TROY DUSTER SAID LAST

23 NIGHT AND LEE SHULMAN YESTERDAY MORNING, THAT IS

24 WHERE WE CAN GIVE OUR STUDENTS THE EXPERIENCE OF

25 ENGAGED DELIBERATION.

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1 JACK LANE QUOTES DEWEY TO THE EFFECT THAT THE

2 SOCIAL EXPERIENCE OF LEARNING TOGETHER IS A CRUCIAL

3 FEATURE OF EDUCATION, AND THAT'S THE DIMENSION OF

4 RIGOROUS INQUIRY THAT CAN LOST WHEN WE TURN

5 COLLEGES INTO CONSUMER-DRIVEN SERVICE CENTERS

6 ORIENTED TOWARDS SATISFYING STUDENTS' INTERESTS IN

7 CLUBS AND MOVIES AND TRAVEL AND EVEN IN THE

8 PROLIFERATION OF INTERNSHIP OPPORTUNITIES UNLESS

9 THOSE ARE DESIGNED WITH CARE.

10 MORE FUNDAMENTAL THAN THE PROVISION OF SUCH

11 SERVICES, UNIVERSITIES HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO

12 MAKE SURE STUDENTS BECOME EDUCATED IN THE CULTURAL

13 AND INTELLECTUAL RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO THEM. AS

14 CHARLES ANDERSON POINTED OUT, THE PRAGMATISTS URGED

15 US TO HELP STUDENTS LEARN HOW TO INTERROGATE

16 INTERESTS CRITICALLY, NOT JUST TO ACT ON THEM OR

17 AGGREGATE THEM. STUDENTS MUST, OF COURSE, ACQUIRE

18 THE TOOLS NECESSARY TO ACCOMPLISH THEIR LIFE GOALS,

19 AND VARIOUS REQUIREMENTS FOR DISTRIBUTION, WRITING

20 AND QUANTITATIVE REASONING ARE QUITE PROPERLY

21 DESIGNED TO DO JUST THAT.

22 BUT IN ADDITION TO THESE TOOLS, THESE LIFE

23 SKILLS, AS THEY'RE SOMETIMES CALLED, WE MUST

24 PROVIDE THE GRADUATES OF OUR LIBERAL ARTS

25 INSTITUTIONS WITH A BROADER AND DEEPER COGNITIVE,

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1 ETHICAL AND, AS ELIZABETH MINNICH SAID, POLITICAL

2 RESOURCES THAT COME WITH A LIBERAL EDUCATION. I

3 BELIEVE WE SHOULD CONCEIVE OF THOSE RESOURCES

4 PRAGMATICALLY IN TERMS OF THE DIFFERENCE THEY CAN

5 MAKE IN HELPING STUDENTS BECOME WHAT, AS ALEXANDER

6 ASTIN CALLED, AGENTS OF SOCIAL CHANGE.

7 AS DEWEY PUT IT IN A PASSAGE THAT BOB ORRILL

8 QUOTED IN HIS INTRODUCTION, THE CONDITION OF

9 AMERICAN LIBERAL EDUCATION, WE MUST CONNECT

10 AMERICAN HIGHER EDUCATION WITH THE DOMINANT

11 INTERESTS AND ACTIVITIES OF THE GREAT BODY OF THE

12 AMERICAN PEOPLE. IT'S CLEAR THAT THE SCRAMBLE FOR

13 MARKET SHARE AMONG SHREWD STUDENT CONSUMERS MAY

14 DRIVE ADMISSIONS OFFICES AND STUDENT AFFAIRS

15 OFFICES TO LOBBY FOR DROPPING REQUIREMENTS AND FOR

16 POURING MORE MONEY INTO EVER GRANDER ATHLETIC

17 FACILITIES THAT RIVAL THE MOST ELEGANT HEALTH

18 CLUBS, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT DEWEY HAD IN MIND.

19 TO UPDATE DEWEY'S LANGUAGE SOMEWHAT WITHOUT, I

20 THINK, ALTERING HIS MEANING, I THINK WE COULD SAY

21 THAT DEWEY BELIEVED OUR STUDENTS SHOULD LEARN NOT

22 ONLY THE SKILLS BUT THE SENSIBILITY REQUIRED FOR

23 PARTICIPATING IN A DELIBERATIVE DEMOCRACY. TO ECHO

24 ALEXANDER ASTIN, IF WE DON'T ASK THEM HOW TO DO

25 THAT, IF WE DON'T TEACH THEM THOSE HABITS OF MIND,

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1 WHO WILL?

2 IT WOULD BE A MISTAKE, I THINK, TO EXAGGERATE

3 THESE COSMOPOLITAL PRAGMATISTS' SUSPICIONS OF

4 REASON OR THEIR COMMITMENT TO THE DECENTERED

5 SELF-PRIZED BY POSTMODERNISTS. I'VE BEEN PLEASED

6 TO FIND MYSELF AT A CONFERENCE WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE

7 MORE INCLINED TO QUOTE DEWEY THAN RORTY, YET THE

8 EARLY PRAGMATISTS DID UNDERSTAND THAT ENCOUNTERS

9 WITH DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW CAN TEACH THE VIRTUE

10 AS WELL AS THE NECESSITY OF WHAT IS NOW CALLED

11 DIALOGICAL THINKING.

12 AS RECENT PRAGMATISTS SUCH AS HILLARY PUTNAM

13 AND RICHARD BERSTEIN HAVE POINTED OUT IN THEIR

14 RESPONSES TO POSTMODERNISM AND THEIR REFINEMENTS OF

15 THE IDEALS OF JURGEN HABERMAS, ENCOUNTERS WITH

16 DIVERSITY CAN HELP FOSTER A COMMITMENT TO

17 COMMUNICATION AND PROBLEM SOLVING AS WELL AS

18 ELIMINATING THE INSTABILITY OF THE INDIVIDUAL

19 SUBJECT.

20 THE COMPLEXITY OF JUDGMENT AND THE DIFFICULTY

21 OF REACHING AGREEMENT THROUGH INTERACTION AMONG

22 SELVES THAT ARE CONSTITUTED DISCURSIVELY. A

23 COMMITMENT TO COSMOPOLITAN PRAGMATISM IN LIBERAL

24 EDUCATION WOULD LEAD US TO HELP OUR STUDENTS TO

25 ENCOUNTER THE OTHER IN THEIR ACADEMIC WORK AS WELL

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1 AS IN THEIR DAILY LIVES SO THAT THEY CONFRONT

2 REGULARLY THE NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND ACCOMMODATE

3 DIFFERENCE.

4 THIS IS THE POINT THAT I TOOK ELIZABETH

5 MINNICH TO BE MAKING LAST NIGHT. LIBERAL EDUCATION

6 IS A PRACTICE THAT ENABLES STUDENTS TO LEARN HOW TO

7 CONFRONT DIFFERENCE, HOW TO GROW AND CHANGE AND

8 LEARN FROM THAT CONFRONTATION, AND HOW TO TRY TO

9 MOVE BEYOND IT THROUGH TAKING DIFFERENCES

10 SERIOUSLY. THE EXPERIENCE OF DELIBERATION DOESN'T

11 ALWAYS YIELD THE BROADENED SPECTRUM PRAGMATISTS

12 WANT BUT SOMETIMES, AS IN THE ACADEMIC EXPERIENCE

13 OF STUDENTS THAT TROY DUSTER DESCRIBED LAST NIGHT

14 AT U.C. BERKELEY, IT DOES HAVE THAT EFFECT.

15 EVEN THOUGH THE FACTS OF DEMOGRAPHIC DIVERSITY

16 AND CULTURAL UPHEAVAL RATHER THAN THE IDEALS OF

17 COSMOPOLITAN PRAGMATISM MAY HAVE ALTERED THE

18 POPULATIONS AND CURRICULA OF AMERICAN COLLEGES AND

19 UNIVERSITIES, SUCH CHANGES ARE MORE THAN JUST

20 COMPATIBLE WITH PRAGMATIC IDEALS. THESE CHANGES

21 MAKE FAR MORE LIKELY THE DEVELOPMENT OF A

22 WIDESPREAD PRAGMATIC SENSIBILITY THAN WAS THE CASE

23 BEFORE THESE CHANGES 30 YEARS AGO.

24 THE IDEAL AS WELL AS THE PRACTICE OF

25 DELIBERATION IS DEEPLY ROOTED IN THE AMERICAN

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1 EXPERIENCE WITH DEMOCRACY. IT CAN BE TRACED BACK

2 THROUGH THE PRACTICES THAT TOCQUEVILLE DESCRIBED,

3 TO THE PURITANS AND THE QUAKERS, AND AS STAN KATZ

4 POINTED OUT, I'M IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO DO

5 JUST THAT TRACING.

6 BUT WE NOW ENJOY AN ESPECIALLY PROPITIOUS

7 MOMENT FOR ADVANCING THAT PRACTICE AND ADVOCATING

8 PRAGMATISM AS IT'S CONTEMPORARY PHILOSOPHICAL

9 RATIONALE. WE LIVE IN AN ERA THAT LACKS THE

10 CONFIDENCE IN NATURAL LAW AND REVEALED RELIGION

11 THAT UNDERLAY THE 18TH CENTURY COMMITMENT TO

12 POPULAR SOVEREIGNTY THAT GAVE US OUR POLITICAL

13 INSTITUTIONS.

14 USING PRAGMATISM TO UNDERGIRD DELIBERATIVE

15 DEMOCRACY IS NOT AND CANNOT BE A STRATEGY FOR

16 SERIOUS POSTMODERNISM, AS LUKE MENAND POINTS OUT IN

17 THE CONDITION OF AMERICAN LIBERAL EDUCATION.

18 BECAUSE FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, DIFFERENCE AND

19 DIVERSITY LEAD NOWHERE BUT TOWARDS A CULTURE OF

20 IRONY AND THE CULTIVATION OF CYNICISM.

21 PRAGMATISM CAN HELP THOSE OF US WHO ARE

22 COMMITTED TO LIBERAL EDUCATION. IF WE TAKE

23 SERIOUSLY THE PRAGMATISM OF JAMES AND DEWEY, WE

24 SHOULD NOT TREAT THE CULTURAL RESOURCES OF LIBERAL

25 EDUCATION AS FIXED, AS AN UNCHANGING CANON. BUT

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1 NEITHER SHOULD WE THROW UP OUR HANDS AND DISMISS

2 ALL EFFORTS AT CANON FORMATION AS AN OLD-FASHIONED

3 ELITIST, EUROCENTRIC PLOT, BECAUSE THE CANON OF

4 GREAT BOOKS HAS BEEN CHANGING FOR AS LONG AS THERE

5 HAS BEEN A CANON.

6 ALL THE HISTORICAL STUDIES OF LIBERAL

7 EDUCATION TO UNDERSCORE A POINT WELL MADE BY

8 CHARLES ELIOT AND MORE RECENTLY BY BRUCE KIMBALL

9 AND FRANCIS OAKLEY HAVE DEMONSTRATED THAT CULTURAL

10 DEBATE BEGINS THE DAY AFTER THE CANON IS FORMED.

11 AS ONE WHO IN THE LATE 1980'S VOLUNTEERED TO SERVE

12 AS A MEDIATOR IN THE CULTURE WARS AND ENDED UP

13 SERVING A TOUR OF ACTIVE DUTY ON THE FRONT, I CAN

14 TESTIFY THAT IT IS POSSIBLE TO SURVIVE THAT

15 EXPERIENCE WITH ONE'S COMMITMENTS TO PRAGMATISM AND

16 LIBERAL EDUCATION MORE OR LESS INTACT.

17 I SPENT THE FIRST FIVE YEARS OF THE 1990'S

18 WORKING WITH RICHARD FOX EDITING A VOLUME ENTITLED,

19 A COMPANION TO AMERICAN THOUGHT, WHICH WAS

20 PUBLISHED IN THE FALL OF 1995. THIS VOLUME

21 CONTAINS MORE THAN 600 ORIGINAL ESSAYS BY MORE THAN

22 230 CONTEMPORARY SCHOLARS WRITING ON EVERYTHING

23 FROM THE PURITANS TO POSTMODERNISM, FROM ABIGAIL

24 ADAMS TO JANE ADDAMS, FROM ANNE HUTCHINSON TO TONI

25 MORRISON, FROM ROGER WILLIAMS TO RICHARD WRIGHT.

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1 IT INCLUDES, FOR EXAMPLE, AN EXCELLENT ESSAY

2 ON EDUCATION BY ELLEN LAGEMANN; AN ESSAY ON

3 LIBERTARIANISM BY ALAN RYAN; AN ESSAY ON SIMPLICITY

4 ON THE SIMPLE LIFE BY DAVID SHI, THE PRESIDENT OF

5 FURMAN COLLEGE WHO WAS PRESENT FOR AT LEAST SOME OF

6 OUR DELIBERATIONS HERE THIS WEEKEND; RICHARD FOX,

7 ADN I BOTH BELIEVE THAT A COMPANION TO AMERICAN

8 THOUGHT WILL STAND AS A DOCUMENT OF THE STATE OF

9 THINKING ABOUT THE AMERICAN IDEAS IN THE LAST

10 DECADE OF THE 20TH CENTURY AND THE THEMES OF

11 DEMOCRACY AND PRAGMATISM ARE CENTRAL TO THE BOOK.

12 THE EXPERIENCE OF EDITING THIS VOLUME HAS LEFT

13 ME SIMULTANEOUSLY ENCOURAGED AND TROUBLED BY THE

14 PROCESS OF RETHINKING LIBERAL EDUCATION. I AM AS

15 IMPRESSED BY THE RICHNESS OF THE KNOWLEDGE

16 AVAILABLE ABOUT AMERICAN CULTURE, WHETHER ONE IS

17 INTERESTED IN DEAD WHITE MALES, SUCH AS JONATHAN

18 EDWARDS AND HENRY ADAMS, AS ONE WOULD FIND IF ONE

19 WERE INTERESTED IN RECENT BLOSSOMING OF SCHOLARSHIP

20 CONCERNING AMERICAN INDIAN CULTURES AND NONWHITE

21 FEMALE NOVELISTS, TO NAME TWO EXAMPLES AMONG MANY

22 OF THE COMPANION. I DON'T SEE WHY WE HAVE TO

23 CHOOSE BETWEEN THE CLASSICS AND MULTI-CULTURALISM

24 IN OUR SCHOLARSHIP OR IN OUR TEACHING.

25 BUT I'M ALSO SOBERED BY THE SKEPTICISM OF SOME

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1 CRITICS TOWARD OUR BELIEF THAT THE CONTRIBUTORS TO

2 OUR COMPANION COULD THEMSELVES REPRESENT AND COULD

3 DO JUSTICE TO DIFFERENT SIDES OF CONTEMPORARY

4 SCHOLARLY DEBATE BECAUSE WE ASKED OUR CONTRIBUTORS

5 NOT ONLY TO PROVIDE RELIABLE INFORMATION BUT ALSO

6 TO SURVEY THE CONTROVERSY SURROUNDING THESE TOPICS

7 AND FINALLY TO EXPLAIN WHY IT MATTERS; WHAT

8 DIFFERENCE IT MAKES THAT WE KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT

9 THESE IDEAS AND THESE INDIVIDUALS.

10 WHEREAS MOST NEWSPAPER REVIEWERS AND TALK SHOW

11 HOSTS HAVE WELCOMED THIS EFFORT TO INCORPORATE

12 DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES AS A SENSIBLE ALTERNATIVE TO

13 INCREASINGLY STRIDENT CULTURE WARS, SOME ACADEMIC

14 REVIEWERS AT BOTH ENDS OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM

15 HAVE BEEN MORE SUSPICIOUS OF THE PROJECT.

16 EVEN IF WE HAVEN'T MANAGED TO PERSUADE ALL

17 READERS OF A COMPANION TO AMERICAN THOUGHT, THAT IT

18 IS POSSIBLE TO HAVE DEEP CONVICTIONS AS A SCHOLAR

19 WHILE STILL TRYING TO UNDERSTAND AND RESPECT THE

20 VIEWS OF THOSE WITH WHOM YOU DISAGREE, I STILL

21 BELIEF REACHING THAT GOAL SHOULD REMAIN THE IDEAL

22 OF A PRAGMATICALLY INSPIRED LIBERAL EDUCATION.

23 OUR CHALLENGE AS EDUCATORS IS TO HELP OUR

24 STUDENTS UNDERSTAND THE WAYS IN WHICH TODAY'S

25 CULTURES HAVE DEVELOPED, OR AS THOMAS EHRLICH PUT

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1 IT, TO SHOW STUDENTS THE SOURCES OF OUR PROBLEMS,

2 USING THE RANGE OF PERSPECTIVES AVAILABLE FROM THE

3 PAST AND FROM THE PRESENT, FROM THE UNITED STATES

4 AND ELSEWHERE.

5 THIS EMPHATICALLY DOES NOT MEAN DISCARDING THE

6 PRINCIPAL TEXTS FROM EUROPEAN AND AMERICAN CULTURAL

7 HISTORY OR SACRIFICING DEPTH FOR A CURRENTLY

8 FASHIONABLE BUT UNSCHOLARLY BREADTH IN OUR COURSES,

9 BUT IT JUST AS EMPHATICALLY DOES NOT MEAN EXCLUDING

10 NEW VOICES FROM OUTSIDE THOSE RECEIVED TRADITIONS.

11 IN LIBERAL EDUCATION, WE SHOULD BE AIMING, AS

12 JAMES AND DEWEY WERE AIMING, TO INCREASE OUR

13 AWARENESS OF THE HISTORICITY OF IDEAS AND THE

14 DIVERSITY OF CULTURES, NOT FOR THEIR OWN SAKE, BUT

15 BECAUSE THAT AWARENESS MAKES POSSIBLE THE

16 PARTICIPATION OF EDUCATED INDIVIDUALS IN THE

17 CONSTRUCTION OF A DEMOCRATIC CULTURE, AND BECAUSE

18 IT CONTRIBUTES TO OUR STUDENTS' REALIZATION THAT

19 THE PROCESS OF CONSTRUCTING A DEMOCRATIC CULTURE IS

20 ENDLESS.

21 THIS IS EDUCATION CONCEIVED NOT IN THE TERMS

22 OF HUTCHINS' TIMELESS TRUTHS BUT IN TERMS OF THE

23 PRAGMATISTS' IDEAS OF INTERACTIVE EXPERIENCE,

24 INSTRUMENTAL KNOWLEDGE AND AN IDEAL DELIBERATIVE

25 DEMOCRACY.

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1 THE IDEAS THAT HAVE SUPPLANTED OLDER VERSIONS

2 OF RACIAL SUPREMACY IN AMERICA ARE NOT UNLIKE THOSE

3 THAT UNDERLIE EXPANDED CONCEPTIONS OF LIBERAL

4 EDUCATION. SUCH IDEAS REQUIRED ACCEPTANCE OF

5 SOMETHING LIKE W.E.B. DUBOIS' NOTION OF DOUBLE

6 CONSCIOUSNESS, THE EFFORT TO KEEP IN BALANCE

7 BECAUSE IT'S NOT POSSIBLE TO FULLY RECONCILE THE

8 COMPETING DEMANDS OF THE SELF AND THE OTHER.

9 SUCH A COSMOPOLITAL AND PRAGMATIC SELF IS

10 CONSTITUTED BY THE TENSION BETWEEN ONE'S OWN

11 AWARENESS OF MEMBERSHIP IN A PARTICULAR COMMUNITY,

12 WHETHER RACIAL OR OTHERWISE, AND ONE'S ASPIRATION

13 TO MEMBERSHIP IN THE LARGER, MORE COSMOPOLITAN AND

14 TRANSRACIAL HUMAN COMMUNITY, A TENSION FURTHER

15 DEEPENED BY THE AWARENESS THAT THE OTHER IS NEVER

16 SINGLE BUT ALWAYS MULTIPLE. THOSE CONTRADICTORY

17 DEMANDS ALERT INDIVIDUALS, ESPECIALLY MEMBERS OF

18 RACIAL MINORITIES, DEBOIS ARGUED, TO THE NECESSITY

19 OF WORKING TO LEGITIMATE A CULTURAL IDEAL BEYOND

20 THE SUMMING OF PURELY INDIVIDUAL PREFERENCE.

21 THIS IS WHERE I THINK THE APPARENT DIFFERENCES

22 BETWEEN TROY DUSTER AND CHARLES ANDERSON CAN BE

23 RESOLVED. ONLY WHEN THE PREFERENCES AND

24 PERSPECTIVES OF MEMBERS OF A MAJORITY ARE FORMED

25 THROUGH INTERACTION WITH AND RECOGNITION OF THE

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1 DIFFERENT DESIRES OF MEMBERS OF MINORITIES CAN THE

2 LATTER HOPE TO ESCAPE OPPRESSION. ONLY BY

3 PERSUADING ALL MEMBERS OF DEMOCRATIC CULTURES THAT

4 THEIR IDEAL OF SELFHOOD MUST INCORPORATE THE DOUBLE

5 CONSCIOUSNESS TO WHICH SOME MEMBERS OF RACIAL

6 MINORITIES COME NATURALLY, ALBEIT PAINFULLY, AND TO

7 WHICH SOME OTHER PEOPLE COME BY EMBRACING ETHICAL

8 IDEALS SUCH AS THE CATEGORICAL IMPERATIVE OR THE

9 CHRISTIAN LAW OF LOVE OR POLITICAL IDEAS SUCH AS

10 THE ETHIC OF RECIPROCITY, ONLY WHEN THAT HAPPENS

11 CAN WE MOVE TOWARDS HORACE KALLEN'S CULTURAL

12 PLURALISM, OR EVEN BEYOND IT TOWARDS THE IDEAL OF

13 AN AMERICAN TRANSNATIONALISM THAT MICHAEL WALZER

14 HAS DESCRIBED OR THE POSTETHNIC AMERICA THAT THE

15 HISTORIAN DAVID HOLLINGER SO PERSUASIVELY LAID OUT

16 IN HIS ESSAY ON COSMOPOLITANISM IN THE COMPANION TO

17 AMERICAN THOUGHT AND IN HIS WONDERFUL BOOK ENTITLED

18 POSTETHNIC AMERICA.

19 IF WE REMAIN PARTISANS OF AN ENLARGED LIBERAL

20 EDUCATION, OUR AIM NEED NOT BE AN UNCRITICAL

21 UNIVERSALISM NOR A CYNICAL AND UNDISCRIMINATING

22 SKEPTICISM, NEITHER THE UNCHASTENED CONFIDENCE OF

23 ENLIGHTENMENT RATIONALISTS NOR A UNIVERSAL

24 HERMENEUTICS OF SUSPICION. WE CAN INSTEAD AIM

25 TOWARDS THE FLEXIBLE, CONSTRUCTIVE AND COSMOPOLITAL

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1 PRAGMATISM OF JAMES AND DEWEY, ADDAMS AND KALLEN

2 AND DEBOIS.

3 NOW, IN BRINGING THESE REMARKS TO A

4 CONCLUSION, I WOULD LIKE TO SHIFT GEARS. AFTER

5 TALKING AT LENGTH AND IN VERY GENERAL TERMS ABOUT

6 COSMOPOLITANISM, I WANTED TO PRESENT A BIT OF LOCAL

7 KNOWLEDGE, AN ETHNOGRAPHY, A NARRATIVE, CASE STUDY,

8 CALL IT WHAT YOU LIKE, SOME AUTOBIOGRAPHICAL

9 FRAGMENTS THAT SUGGEST AT LEAST A FEW POSSIBLE

10 COMBINATIONS OF PRAGMATISM AND LIBERAL EDUCATION.

11 IN HIS CONTRIBUTION TO THE CONDITION OF

12 AMERICAN LIBERAL EDUCATION, LOUIS MENAND POINTED

13 OUT HOW THE INTERDISCIPLINARY PROGRAMS NOW

14 DEVELOPING AT THE GRADUATE LEVEL OF AMERICAN

15 UNIVERSITIES MIGHT EVENTUALLY FILTER INTO

16 UNDERGRADUATE EDUCATION, AND HE DEVELOPED THAT IDEA

17 FURTHER IN HIS KEYNOTE ADDRESS.

18 MY OWN EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN THAT SUCH FILTERING

19 HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME, AND THAT IT HAS

20 LED TO AT LEAST SOME CONSCIOUS ATTEMPTS TO ADVANCE

21 THE IDEAS OF PRAGMATISM AND LIBERAL EDUCATION

22 TOGETHER. AS AN UNDERGRADUATE AT DARTMOUTH IN THE

23 EARLY '70S, I WROTE AN INTERDISCIPLINARY ESSAY WITH

24 SUPPORTS FROM SCHOLARS IN DEPARTMENTS OF HISTORY,

25 GOVERNMENT, ENGLISH AND COMP, LITERATURE AND ART ON

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1 THE HISTORICAL AND CONCEPTUAL RELATIONS BETWEEN THE

2 PHILOSOPHY OF PRAGMATISM AND THE CULTURES OF

3 MODERNISM THAT WAS EMERGING IN EUROPE AND THE U.S.

4 AT THE TURN OF THE 20TH CENTURY.

5 I WENT TO STANFORD FOR GRADUATE STUDY BECAUSE

6 OF THE JOINT PROGRAM THAT STAN MENTIONED IN HISTORY

7 AND HUMANITIES THAT ENABLED ME TO SPEND TWO YEARS

8 READING THE GREAT BOOKS, STUDYING LIBERAL EDUCATION

9 ALONG WITH MY DISCIPLINARY FOCUS ON AMERICAN

10 HISTORY. IT WAS THERE THAT I FIRST READ ELIOT AND

11 HUTCHINS AND NEWMAN UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF WILLIAM

12 CLEBSCH, A SCHOLAR OF AMERICAN RELIGIOUS THOUGHT

13 WHO RESPECTED JAMES, BUT WHO TRIED TO INCULCATE IN

14 ALL OF US THE VERY OLD-FASHIONED PRINCIPLE THAT ANY

15 BOOK WORTH READING IS WORTH READING TWICE, A

16 PRINCIPLE TO WHICH FEW AMERICAN HISTORIANS SEEM TO

17 SUBSCRIBE.

18 AT STANFORD, I SIMULTANEOUSLY DEEPENED MY

19 INTEREST IN PRAGMATISM. THE FIRST GRADUATE STUDENT

20 THAT I MET WHEN I ARRIVED THERE WAS ROBERT

21 WESTBROOK, A FELLOW NATIVE OF COLORADO WHO WOULD

22 ONE DAY WRITE WHAT IS NOW GENERALLY RECOGNIZED AS

23 THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE STUDY OF JOHN DEWEY'S

24 PHILOSOPHY.

25 UNLIKE LEE SHULMAN, I DID NOT THINK OF THESE

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1 TWO ENTERPRISES, THE STUDY OF THE GREAT BOOKS AND

2 STUDY OF PRAGMATISM, AS INCOMPATIBLE IN THE LEAST.

3 TO ME, THE WRITINGS OF JAMES AND DEWEY WERE PERHAPS

4 THE GREATEST GREAT BOOKS. I WENT FROM STANFORD TO

5 TEACH AT BRANDEIS LARGELY BECAUSE OF THE

6 UNIVERSITY'S STRENGTH AND TRADITION IN THE HISTORY

7 OF IDEAS AND ITS INTERDISCIPLINARY PROGRAM IN

8 AMERICAN CIVILIZATION. MY PARALLEL INTERESTS IN

9 PRAGMATISM AND LIBERAL EDUCATION HAVE CONTINUED TO

10 DEVELOP AS A RESULT OF ALL THAT.

11 I SERVED ON THE FACULTY COMMITTEE THAT

12 DESIGNED OUR CURRENT CURRICULUM, WHICH INCLUDES AN

13 INTERDISCIPLINARY PROGRAM OF CLUSTERS, GROUPS OF

14 COURSES THAT SHARE THEMES AND TOPICS EVEN THOUGH

15 THEY'RE OFFERED IN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND EVEN

16 ACROSS THIS SUPPOSEDLY UNBRIDGEABLE GAP BETWEEN THE

17 NATURAL SCIENCES AND SOCIAL SCIENCES AND

18 HUMANITIES.

19 EACH BRANDEIS STUDENT NOW COMPLETES, IN

20 ADDITION TO A MAJOR, A SUPPLEMENTARY CLUSTER OF

21 COURSES THAT CLARIFY THEMATIC COHERENCES THAT

22 EMERGE FROM DIFFERENT DISCIPLINES AND TRADITIONS OF

23 INQUIRY. MANY OF THESE CLUSTERS HAVE EXPERIENTIAL

24 OR SERVICE-ORIENTED COMPONENTS, AND SOME OF THEM

25 TRY TO LINK COURSEWORK WITH THE WORLD OF WORK

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1 BEYOND UNIVERSITY LIFE IN JUST THE WAY THAT LEE

2 SHULMAN AND STAN KATZ WERE RECOMMENDING.

3 I'M CURRENTLY SERVING AS CHAIR OF A BRANDEIS

4 PROGRAM OF FIRST-YEAR SEMINARS IN HUMANISTIC

5 INQUIRY WHICH DRAWS ITS FACULTY FROM ACROSS THE

6 UNIVERSITY. THIS PROGRAM, TOO, TAKES FOR GRANTED

7 THAT DIFFERENT SCHOLARS AND STUDENTS HAVE DIFFERENT

8 KINDS OF EXPERTISE AND REQUIRES ONLY THAT THE

9 COURSES BE INTERDISCIPLINARY, BROAD-BASED

10 HISTORICALLY AND ACQUAINT STUDENTS WITH MAJOR TEXTS

11 FROM WESTERN CIVILIZATION AND OTHER CIVILIZATIONS

12 AS WELL.

13 THIS PROGRAM IS QUITE SELF-CONSCIOUSLY AN

14 UPDATED VERSION OF THE OLDER IDEALS OF LIBERAL

15 EDUCATION. IT IS ALSO PRAGMATIC, ALTHOUGH I HAVE

16 TO ADMIT LESS SELF-CONSCIOUSLY SO IN THE MIND OF

17 MANY OF THOSE WHO PARTICIPATE IN IT THAN IT IS IN

18 THE MIND OF THE CURRENT CHAIR OF THE PROGRAM.

19 ITS PRAGMATIC IN THAT IT REFLECTS OUR

20 AWARENESS THAT THERE ARE NO FIXED, UNCHANGING

21 ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS OF WHAT CONSTITUTES A

22 DISCIPLINE, WHAT CONSTITUTES SOMETHING THAT IS

23 BROAD-BASED HISTORICALLY AND FOCUSED OR WHAT TEXTS

24 ARE CENTRAL TO CIVILIZATION.

25 THE PROGRAM DEPENDS ON THE COMMUNITY OF

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1 SCHOLARS, OF SPECIALISTS, IN THIS CASE CONSTITUTED

2 BY THE COMMITTEE THAT OVERSEES THE PROGRAM, TO HELP

3 INDIVIDUAL FACULTY MEMBERS FRAME THEIR COURSES IN

4 WAYS THAT ARE LIKELY TO BE SUCCESSFUL; THAT IS TO

5 SAY, THAT ARE LIKELY TO HELP STUDENTS GET THEIR

6 RESULTS THAT THEY'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IN THIS

7 SEMESTER. NOT ONLY TO LEARN TO READ AND WRITE, BUT

8 ALSO THINK CRITICALLY ABOUT CENTRAL ISSUES IN THE

9 HUMAN EXPERIENCE AND THE WORLD THEY INHABIT.

10 SO YOU CAN SEE THAT MY ENTIRE ACADEMIC LIFE

11 HAS ORBITED AROUND A CONSTELLATION OF IDEAS THAT

12 CONNECTED PRAGMATISM AND LIBERAL EDUCATION, AND

13 THOSE IDEAS HAVE GUIDED MY OWN ACTIVITIES AS A

14 SCHOLAR AND AS A TEACHER.

15 I WOULD NOT GO QUITE SO FAR AS BRUCE KIMBALL

16 DOES IN ASSERTING THAT A CONSENSUS IS EMERGING ON

17 THE CLOSE RELATION BETWEEN PRAGMATISM AND LIBERAL

18 EDUCATION. SUCH A CONSENSUS DID NOT CREATE ANY OF

19 THE PROGRAMS THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN.

20 YET NEITHER WOULD I GO SO FAR AS MY FRIEND ROBB

21 WESTBROOK, WHO COMPLAINED IN THE CONDITION OF

22 AMERICAN LIBERAL EDUCATION THAT KIMBALL WAS

23 ENGAGING IN WISHFUL THINKING.

24 I WOULD ARGUE INSTEAD THAT THE CONNECTION

25 BETWEEN PRAGMATISM AND LIBERAL EDUCATION IS NOT

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1 ONLY POSSIBLE, BUT THAT IT MAKES SENSE, THAT IT IS

2 CONCEPTUALLY COHERENT. I WOULD BE WILLING TO

3 PROPOSE FOR DELIBERATION THE PROPOSITION THAT SUCH

4 A COMBINATION, EVEN IF IT IS NOT YET RECOGNIZED BY

5 MANY IN AMERICAN HIGHER EDUCATION, FOR VARIOUS

6 REASONS, SHOULD UNDERGIRD A RENEWED COMMITMENT TO

7 LIBERAL EDUCATION FOR THE 21TH CENTURY.

8 IN ADDITION TO ADVANCING THAT ARGUMENT, I

9 WOULD BE WILLING TO POINT TO A SINGLE CASE, TO MY

10 OWN LOCAL KNOWLEDGE, MY OWN LIVED EXPERIENCE, TO

11 SUGGEST THAT A JOINT COMMITMENT TO THE IDEALS OF

12 LIBERAL EDUCATION AND THE COMMITMENT TO PRAGMATISM,

13 AT LEAST AS PRACTICED AT STANFORD AND BRANDEIS, HAS

14 IN AT LEAST ONE INSTANCE SHAPED A LIFE IN HIGHER

15 EDUCATION AND THAT THE COMBINATION NEED NOT

16 NECESSARILY BE DANGEROUS TO ONE'S HEALTH.

17 (Laughter)

18 I WOULD CLOSE BY RETURNING TO THE CONCLUSION

19 OF JAMES' ESSAY, "WHAT MAKES A LIFE SIGNIFICANT"?

20 THE SOLID MEANING OF LIFE, JAMES WROTE, IS ALWAYS

21 THE SAME ETERNAL THING, THE MARRIAGE, NAMELY, OF

22 SOME UNHABITUAL IDEAL HOWEVER SPECIAL WITH SOME

23 FIDELITY, COURAGE AND ENDURANCE, WITH SOME MAN'S OR

24 WOMAN'S PAINS. AND WHATEVER OR WHEREVER LIFE MAY

25 BE, THERE WILL ALWAYS BE THE CHANCE FOR THAT

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1 MARRIAGE TO TAKE PLACE.

2 WHILE I WON'T BE SO IMMODEST AS TO CLAIM THAT

3 MY OWN COMMITMENT OF PRAGMATISM AND LIBERAL

4 EDUCATION HAVE MADE THIS LIFE SIGNIFICANT FROM ANY

5 PERSPECTIVE BUT MY OWN OR ABOUT MY OWN PALPITATING

6 LITTLE LIFE THROBS, TO USE JAMES' PHRASE, I DO

7 BELIEVE THAT COMBINING THE IDEALS OF LIBERAL

8 EDUCATION AN COSMOPOLITAN PRAGMATISM CAN HELP GUIDE

9 OUR EFFORTS AS ADMINISTRATORS, AS SCHOLARS AND AS

10 TEACHERS, A KIND OF COHERENCE.

11 AS ELLEN LAGEMANN MADE CLEAR IN HER DISCUSSION

12 OF THE BROADER TRANSFORMATION OF THE ROLE OF

13 UNIVERSITIES IN OUR DEMOCRACY, THAT KNOWLEDGE IS

14 NOT CERTAINLY EVERYTHING THAT WE'D LIKE TO HOPE FOR

15 FROM PRAGMATISM AND LIBERAL EDUCATION, BUT IT'S NOT

16 INSIGNIFICANT.

17 (Applaud)

18 MR. KATZ: WELL, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I

19 THOUGHT THAT WE COULDN'T KEEP MOVING FORWARD THIS

20 MORNING, AND THESE WERE TWO REALLY WONDERFUL TALKS.

21 IT SUGGESTS ACTUALLY AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT

22 CONFERENCE. I THINK SOMETHING OBVIOUSLY HAS BEEN

23 HAPPENING OUT THERE IN THE WORLD OF HIGHER

24 EDUCATION OVER THE PAST 40 YEARS WHICH ISN'T SO

25 BAD. EVEN IN BACCALAUREATE INSTITUTIONS LIKE

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1 DARTMOUTH AND SMITH AND STANFORD AND COLUMBIA.

2 WHAT DO WE DO TO PRODUCE TWO PEOPLE LIKE THIS?

3 (Applaud)

4 WE HAVE A FEW MINUTES FOR DISCUSSION. THE

5 FLOOR IS OPEN.

6 MS. JOAN STRAUMANIS: THANK YOU. THIS IS VERY

7 STIMULATING, AND IT, TO ME, HAS STIMULATED THE NEED

8 FOR SOME TESTIMONY AND TO GIVE OUT A CHALLENGE. I

9 WANT TO PUT TOGETHER A FEW THINGS THAT WERE SAID AT

10 THIS SESSION THAT I THINK POINTED US IN A DIRECTION

11 OF A CHALLENGE.

12 IT WAS SAID THAT, BY ELLEN, THAT PROGRESSIVE

13 THINKING HAS HAD LITTLE IMPACT ON HIGHER EDUCATION,

14 OR RATHER DEWEY'S THINKING HAS HAD LITTLE IMPACT ON

15 HIGHER EDUCATION BECAUSE HIS THINKING WAS NOT

16 STRATEGIC. THAT'S VERY INTERESTING.

17 AND THAT THERE HAS BEEN A MARGINALIZATION OF

18 PROGRESSIVE ELEMENTS IN GENERAL, THAT TELLS US

19 SOMETHING ABOUT THE RECIPE FOR CHANGING THAT. BUT

20 I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT SOME OF THIS

21 IRREMEDIABLE FLATNESS THAT JAMES WAS TALKING ABOUT

22 MIGHT CHARACTERIZE OUR MEETING HERE. ALTHOUGH IT'S

23 BEEN VERY STIMULATING AND VERY EXCITING, I'M NOT

24 SURE THAT WE HAVE HAD THE RADICALS AMONG US THAT

25 WOULD REALLY TAKE US FORWARD ANOTHER STEP THE WAY

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1 THAT THE 1931 CONFERENCE HAD RADICALS AMONG THEM.

2 I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE RADICAL

3 RHETORIC AS WELL AS RADICAL PEOPLE AT A CONFERENCE

4 LIKE THIS, AND I THINK THAT IT'S INDICATIVE THAT

5 ELLEN MAY BE WRONG; THAT WE HAVE HEARD QUITE

6 RADICAL STATEMENTS MADE THAT HAVEN'T SOUNDED VERY

7 FAR OUT AT ALL.

8 AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT MUCH OF THIS

9 RHETORIC HAS BEEN ACCEPTED, AT LEAST IN PRINCIPLE.

10 THERE IS NO CORNER OF THIS COUNTRY WHERE PEOPLE

11 DON'T TALK ABOUT INTERNSHIPS AND CO-OP PROGRAMS,

12 WHERE PEOPLE DON'T TALK ABOUT EXPERIENTIAL LEARNING

13 AND SERVICE LEARNING. THEY MAY NOT BE DOING IT,

14 BUT THIS TALK IS NO LONGER RADICAL.

15 SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO TO TESTIFY A LITTLE BIT

16 AND TO SAY THAT I WISH WE HAD AT THIS CONFERENCE

17 THE KIND OF VOICES THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, WERE

18 REPRESENTED BY ARTHUR MORGAN IN 1931. ARTHUR

19 MORGAN, AN ENGINEER, IS REALLY THE PERSON WHO HAS

20 GIVEN US THE CONCEPT THAT COOPERATIVE EDUCATION,

21 THAT LIFE EXPERIENCE BELONGS IN A LIBERAL EDUCATION

22 AND NOT JUST IN A VOCATIONAL EDUCATION.

23 THAT'S HIS RHETORIC, AND IT'S RHETORIC THAT WE

24 HAVE BELIEVED IN, ALL OF US, FOR ALL THESE YEARS,

25 AND IT'S A DIRECT LINEAGE TO ARTHUR MORGAN, THE

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1 PRESIDENT OF ANTIOCH AT THE TIME. AS I SAID, HE'S

2 AN ENGINEER, AND HE INVENTED THAT IDEA ALONG WITH

3 HIS FRIEND, CHARLES KETTERING, ANOTHER OHIOAN.

4 I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT THERE WERE NO PEOPLE

5 FROM ANTIOCH AT THIS CONFERENCE, BECAUSE ALTHOUGH

6 MANY PEOPLE SAY, WELL, THEY'RE CRAZY OVER THERE, I

7 CAN TELL YOU AS AN ALUMNI THAT THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN,

8 AND THAT IT'S BEEN GOOD FOR US IN HIGHER EDUCATION

9 TO HAVE THOSE KINDS OF VOICES IN OUR MIDST.

10 MS. BORNSTEIN: THEY WERE INVITED.

11 MS. JOAN STRAUMANIS: I'M GLAD THEY WERE

12 INVITED. I WISH THEY HAD BEEN DRAGGED IN. ANYWAY,

13 YOU GOT ME. LET ME SAY -- LET ME SAY THAT ALTHOUGH

14 MY FIELD IS PHILOSOPHY, YOU LIVE LONG ENOUGH, YOU

15 BECOME A HISTORIAN. AND I WAS TOLD BY GEORGE

16 GREIGER (PH), A PHILOSOPHER AT ANTIOCH WHO LAST I

17 CHECKED IS STILL WALKING THE EARTH, THAT HE WAS

18 ADVISED BY DEWEY THAT HE NEEDS -- WHEN HE WAS A

19 YOUNG FACULTY MEMBER AT BRADLEY UNIVERSITY IN

20 PEORIA, THAT HE REALLY NEEDED TO TEACH AT A

21 PROGRESSIVE COLLEGE, SO HE INTERVIEWED AT BOTH

22 ROLLINS AND ANTIOCH, AND TOOK UP A JOB AT ANTIOCH

23 AFTER WHAT HE TOLD ME WAS AN INTERVIEW WITH

24 HAMILTON HOLT, ONE OF THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE

25 ROLLINS CONFERENCE IN 1931, IN FACT, THE HOST OF

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1 THE ROLLINS CONFERENCE, PRESIDENT OF ROLLINS AT THE

2 TIME.

3 AND WHAT GEORGE GREIGER SAID TO ME WAS THAT

4 OLD BUCCANEER, HE SAID, HE'S NO PROGRESSIVE, HE'S A

5 TYRANT, AND I WOULDN'T WORK FOR HIM. SO THIS IS

6 JUST A LITTLE BIT OF REALITY CHECK HERE. AND THEN

7 HE WENT TO WORK FOR ARTHUR MORGAN AT ANTIOCH.

8 THE CHALLENGE THAT I WANT TO ISSUE IS THAT

9 I'VE HEARD A LOT AT THIS CONFERENCE, AND I WAS

10 GUILTY OF THIS MYSELF FOR YEARS AND YEARS, OF

11 SAYING THAT LIBERAL EDUCATION HAS ITS UNIQUE HOME

12 SOMEHOW IN THE LIBERAL ARTS COLLEGE; THAT THE

13 LIBERAL ARTS COLLEGE IS SPECIAL, UNIQUE, DIFFERENT,

14 AND NOW I'M NOT AT A LIBERAL ARTS COLLEGE. I'M AT

15 A RESEARCH UNIVERSITY. I HAVE CHANGED LOYALTY.

16 AND I WANT TO SAY YOU ARE NOT UNIQUE. THESE

17 THINGS ARE GOING ON IN ALL OF THESE PLACES. THE

18 RESEARCH UNIVERSITIES ARE NOT AS UNIFOCAL, ARE NOT

19 AS CLEAR IN THEIR CONSERVATIVE ROLES AS PEOPLE HAVE

20 ACCUSED THEM OF BEING, AND IN FACT, ALL OF THE

21 THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, THE

22 COLLABORATIVE EDUCATION, THE EXPERIENTIAL

23 EDUCATION, THEY'RE GOING ON IN ALL OF THESE

24 UNIVERSITIES.

25 THE PROGRESSIVE IDEAS HAVE TAKEN HOLD. IF

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1 YOU'RE NOT SEEING THEM, YOU'RE NOT LOOKING. WHEN I

2 WAS AT PHIPSEE (PH) AS A PROGRAM OFFICER, THE MOST

3 RADICAL PROPOSALS WE GOT WERE NOT FROM THE LIBERAL

4 ARTS COLLEGES. THEY WERE FROM STATE COLLEGES AND

5 UNIVERSITIES WHERE LONE RANGERS WERE TRYING TO

6 CHANGE THEIR ENVIRONMENTS, AND VERY OFTEN DID.

7 SO MY FINAL WISH IS THAT, THAT PEOPLE AT THE

8 LIBERAL ARTS COLLEGES STOP BELIEVING THAT THEY'RE

9 UNIQUE BUT BEGIN TO BECOME SO AND LEAD US TO A NEW

10 RADICALISM THAT WILL TAKE US TO THE NEXT STAGE OF

11 STRATEGIC CHANGE THAT WILL REALLY TRANSFORM HIGHER

12 EDUCATION.

13 MR. KATZ: THANK YOU. YES, MICHELLE.

14 MS. MICHELE MYERS: MICHELE MYERS FROM DENISON


24 WHAT I WANTED TO SAY IS, AND I KNOW WE CAN'T

25 LOAD EVERYTHING INTO ONE CONFERENCE IN HERE FOR

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1 THESE FEW DAYS, WHICH HAVE BEEN ABSOLUTELY

2 WONDERFUL AND STIMULATING. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT

3 HABITS OF THE MIND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, AND THAT

4 WAS FITTING. AND THE TACK WE TOOK TO DO IT WAS

5 VERY APPROPRIATE AND VERY INTERESTING.

6 WHAT I'M MISSING, AND I HOPE PERHAPS WE HAVE

7 AN ADDITIONAL CONFERENCE, IS WE ALSO TALK ABOUT OUR

8 INSTITUTIONS, PARTICULARLY THE SMALL LIBERAL ARTS

9 COLLEGES, BUT NOT EXCLUSIVELY BY ANY MEANS; WE TALK

10 ABOUT EDUCATING FOR CHARACTER OR CITIZENSHIP OR

11 GOOD CHARACTER IS ANOTHER WORD IN OUR MISSION

12 STATEMENT, AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO KNOW HOW ONE

13 MIGHT DO THAT. PERHAPS SERVICE LEARNING IS ONE

14 WAY, BUT YOU CAN'T LOAD EVERYTHING ONTO THAT

15 EITHER.

16 AND I WORRY ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I ALWAYS THINK

17 ABOUT -- AND THE POINT WAS MADE YESTERDAY BY

18 SOMEONE THAT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT GERMANY IN THE

19 30S AND CERTAINLY THE 40S, WE HAD ALL THESE

20 WONDERFULLY WELL LITERATE AND EDUCATED PEOPLE WHO

21 SENT MILLIONS OF PEOPLE TO GAS CHAMBERS TO THE

22 MUSIC OF MOZART AND BEETHOVAN AND, YOU KNOW, THERE

23 IS SOMETHING ABOUT THAT THAT LEAVES YOU WONDERING

24 WHAT WAS MISSING IN THAT EDUCATION THAT COULD

25 PRODUCE SUCH PEOPLE.

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1 AND WHAT IS MISSING IN OUR EDUCATION IS THAT

2 WE CAN HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE CERTAINLY VERY BRIGHT

3 AND EDUCATED WHO BELIEVED IN SLAVERY; CERTAINLY

4 BRIGHT AND EDUCATED PEOPLE WHO BELIEVED THAT

5 CIVILIZATION RIGHTS -- THAT THERE WASN'T A RIGHT

6 TIME. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW ALL THIS.

7 SO I WOULD LIKE TO SORT OF THINK THROUGH WHAT

8 MIGHT BE A FOLLOW-UP TO A CONFERENCE LIKE THIS,

9 PERHAPS HAVING TO DO WITH PRAGMATISM. I MEAN, IT

10 SEEMS TO ME TO MAKE A LOT OF SINCE, BUT WE NEED TO

11 GO FURTHER AND REALLY ASK OURSELVES THESE TOUGH

12 QUESTIONS. IT'S HARD ENOUGH TO EDUCATE THE MIND,

13 AND WE CAN CERTAINLY AGREE AND DISAGREE THERE ARE

14 MANY WAYS TO DO IT, AND IT'S ALL GOOD, BUT WHAT

15 ABOUT THE REST OF IT, AND WHAT DO WE DO?

16 MR. STANLEY KATZ: THANK YOU. THERE IS A

17 QUESTION IN THE BACK, THE STRIPED SHIRT.

18 MR. LARRY SHINN: LARRY SHINN FROM BEREA

19 COLLEGE. I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT THEN ASK A

20 QUESTION OF OUR TWO PANELISTS TODAY. IT REALLY

21 BUILDS UPON THE TWO COMMENTS JUST MADE. MY

22 OBSERVATION IS THAT THERE IS A LOT OF

23 MARGINALIZATION THAT'S REPRESENTED IN THIS

24 CONFERENCE, THE EXTENT TO WHICH WE UNDERSTAND THAT

25 NOT ONLY HAVE WE DEMONIZED EDUCATION IN TERMS OF

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1 THE PERCENTAGE OF STUDENTS WHO COME FROM HIGH

2 SCHOOL TO COLLEGE, FROM ROUGHLY 20 PERCENT TO 50

3 PERCENT IN THE LAST 40 TO 50 YEARS, BUT WHERE THOSE

4 STUDENTS GO TO COLLEGE AS UNDERGRADUATES HAS ALSO

5 CHANGED SUCH THAT THE PRIVATE COLLEGES, MANY WHOM

6 ARE REPRESENTED HERE TODAY, INDICATED APPROXIMATELY

7 50 PERCENT OF THOSE STUDENTS IN ABOUT 40 YEARS AGO,

8 BUT TODAY WE EDUCATE ONLY ABOUT 20 PERCENT.

9 NOW THE IMPLICATION ALSO OF THE FACT THAT OUR

10 PANELISTS WHO CAN TEACH US MUCH ABOUT LIBERAL

11 EDUCATION ARE THEMSELVES IN RESEARCH UNIVERSITIES

12 AND ARE NOT COMING FROM LIBERAL ARTS COLLEGES ALSO

13 SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT THE EXTENT TO WHICH WE HAVE

14 MARGINALIZED THE THINKING ABOUT LIBERAL ARTS

15 COLLEGES, AT LEAST THE PUBLIC SHARES IN THE WIDER

16 FORUM IN THE UNIVERSITIES, BUT UNLIKE THE COMMENTS

17 MADE BY MY COLLEAGUE FROM MY DAYS AT LEHIGH, I

18 DON'T AGREE THAT THE UNIVERSITIES ARE DOING SO WELL

19 WITH THAT 80 PERCENT OF THE UNDERGRADUATE

20 POPULATION THEY'RE EDUCATING IN AMERICA TODAY.

21 ONCE YOU MOVE BEYOND THE SPECIAL EXPECTATIONS

22 OF A BRANDEIS OR LEHIGH OR SOME OF THE VERY BEST

23 SCHOOLS THAT HAVE PROVIDED FOR UNDERGRADUATES A

24 SPECIAL -- IN A STATE UNIVERSITY OR PUBLIC

25 UNIVERSITIES, AN EXCELLENT EDUCATION. WHAT I SEE

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1 IN THE KENTUCKY WHERE I LIVE, THE PENNSYLVANIA

2 WHERE I LIVE, MOST OF THOSE UNDERGRADUATES ARE

3 GOING TO SCHOOLS WHERE THE FACULTY ARE TEACHING

4 TEACHERS OF LIBERAL ARTS COLLEGES IN OTHER

5 UNIVERSITIES BUT NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THE

6 LIBERAL EDUCATION THAT IN FACT WE'VE ESPOUSED HERE

7 TODAY, AND THEY ARE THE REAL GUARANTORS OF THE

8 FUTURE OF LIBERAL LEARNING THAT WE'VE ALL BEEN

9 TALKING ABOUT.

10 NOW, I'VE GIVEN THIS LONG PROLOGUE TO SAY IT

11 SEEMS TO ME WE HAVE SEVERAL GAPS THAT WE HAVE TO

12 OVERCOME. I'D LIKE TO ASK OUR HISTORIANS TO THINK

13 A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THESE GAPS. WHAT DO THESE

14 STATISTICS I JUST MENTIONED, WHICH ARE ROUGHLY

15 ACCURATE -- THERE ARE WONDERFUL EXCEPTIONS TO WHAT

16 I'VE GIVEN -- BUT WHAT DO THESE SUGGEST ABOUT THE

17 GAP IN THE CONVERSATION BETWEEN A GROUP LIKE THIS

18 AND THE FACULTY WHO ARE TEACHING 80 PERCENT OF THE

19 STUDENTS GOING TO PUBLIC UNIVERSITIES IN AMERICA

20 TODAY?

21 THAT IS, HOW DOES ONE BRIDGE THE GAP BETWEEN

22 THE LIBERAL ARTS COLLEGE AND THOSE WHO SHOULD BE

23 THINKING ABOUT LIBERAL LEARNING IN UNIVERSITIES WHO

24 ARE SPECIALISTS, OR IN MANY CASES, GRADUATE

25 STUDENTS WHO ARE TEACHING AND GOING TO THEM AND

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1 FOLLOW THEIR MEMBERS IN TERMS OF SPECIALIZATION?

2 THAT'S ONE GAP I'M CONCERNED ABOUT.

3 THE SECOND GAP IS HOW MUCH DO THOSE OF YOU WHO

4 WORK IN THE UNIVERSITIES, I'M THINKING ABOUT BRUCE

5 WHILSHIRE'S ARTICLE OR BOOK RIGHT NOW WHO SAYS THAT

6 WE'RE NOT DOING VERY WELL, IT'S THAT KIND OF

7 CONCERN THAT I HAVE. HOW CAN ONE BRIDGE THE GAP

8 BETWEEN WHAT SOME OF YOU WHO ARE DEEPLY ENGAGED,

9 LEE SHULMAN I'VE HEARD SPEAK FOR YEARS AND HAVE

10 THOUGHT WONDERFULLY APPROPRIATE IN CHALLENGING US

11 TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE TEACH IN PEDAGOGY, BUT I ASK

12 THE QUESTION HOW MANY AS STANFORD HAVE ADOPTED

13 LEE'S IDEAS.

14 HOW MUCH HAS BRANDEIS ADOPTED MANY OF JAMES'

15 IDEAS, ET CETERA? IN OTHER WORDS, HOW DO YOU

16 BRIDGE THE GAP BETWEEN THOSE WITHIN THE UNIVERSITY

17 WHO ARE TEACHING MANY OF US BEYOND THAT UNIVERSITY

18 ABOUT LIBERAL EDUCATION, AND THEIR OWN COLLEAGUES

19 WITHIN THAT UNIVERSITY THEY'RE EDUCATING 80

20 PERCENT. SO IT'S REALLY TWO GAPS THAT I'M CURIOUS

21 ABOUT WHICH, OF COURSE, WOULD LEAD TO A CONFERENCE

22 BUILDING UP ON THIS ONE THAT INVITED SOME OF THOSE

23 FOLKS HERE AS WELL.

24 MR. STANLEY KATZ: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'RE

25 OUT OF TIME NOW, SO IT'S A PERFECT LEAD-IN TO ALLOW

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1 EACH OF THE TWO SPEAKERS HAVE A RESPONSE AND

2 UNFORTUNATELY WE'LL HAVE TO CLOSE THE SESSION.

3 PROFESSOR LAGEMANN: I THINK I WOULD SAY THREE

4 THINGS IN RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION. I'M NOT SURE

5 HOW DIRECTLY THEY WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. I

6 THINK THERE ARE EFFORTS AFOOT -- AND THEY NEED TO

7 BE ENCOURAGED, THEY'RE NOT STRONG ENOUGH YET -- BUT

8 TO INCLUDE AN EDUCATION ABOUT EDUCATION IN THE

9 EDUCATION OF OLD GRADUATE STUDENTS. BECAUSE IF IN

10 FACT, THE GRADUATE STUDENTS WE HAVE TEACHING NOW IN

11 RESEARCH UNIVERSITIES ARE NOT TAUGHT ABOUT

12 TEACHING, ABOUT LIBERAL EDUCATION, AND THEY'RE ONLY

13 IMMERSED IN THEIR DISCIPLINES, THEY DON'T KNOW VERY

14 MUCH WHEN THEY GET OUT OF THEIR AREA TO TEACH.

15 THE SECOND POINT I WOULD MAKE, AND I'M SURE

16 THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO KNOW MORE ABOUT IT THAN I DO,

17 BUT MORE AND MORE UNIVERSITIES ARE DEVELOPING

18 TEACHING CENTERS, A LA, FOR EXAMPLE, THE BOX CENTER

19 AT HARVARD. I KNOW AS A NEW FACULTY MEMBER AT NYU

20 THE FIRST PIECE OF MAIL I GOT WAS FROM A TEACHING

21 COMMISSION INVITING ME TO A LUNCH AND SO ON, AND IT

22 WAS A VERY, VERY ACTIVE PROGRAM ABOUT TEACHING

23 THROUGHOUT THE UNIVERSITY. AND I THINK THERE NEEDS

24 TO BE MORE AND MORE OF THAT.

25 ANOTHER POINT I WOULD MAKE, AND I'M NOT SURE

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1 THAT THIS SPEAKS DIRECTLY TO YOUR QUESTION, BUT I

2 THINK TO THINK OF LIBERAL EDUCATION AND KIND OF

3 EQUATE IT TO A LIBERAL COLLEGE IS A LITTLE BIT LIKE

4 EQUATING EDUCATION AND SCHOOLING. I MEAN, THE

5 REALITY IS ONE OF THE ISSUES ABOUT LIBERAL

6 EDUCATION THAT IS TREMENDOUSLY IMPORTANT IS WHAT'S

7 GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES WHERE SO MANY OF

8 THE INCREASING NUMBERS OF STUDENTS WHO ARE GOING

9 THROUGH HIGHER EDUCATION ARE, AND WHAT ARE WE DOING

10 TO HELP PEOPLE IN COMMUNITY COLLEGES THINK ABOUT

11 MANY OF THEIR VOCATIONAL PROGRAMS, FOR EXAMPLE, IN

12 WAYS THAT COULD COMBINE LIBERAL EDUCATION? WHAT

13 ARE WE DOING TO HELP INSTITUTIONS THAT SURROUND

14 COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES PICK UP THEIR

15 RESPONSIBILITIES TO CONTINUE THE LIBERAL EDUCATION

16 OF PEOPLE AFTER THEY LEAVE SCHOOL?

17 TOO FEW PEOPLE FROM COMMUNITY COLLEGES

18 TRANSFER AND MOVE ON THROUGH THE HIGHER EDUCATION

19 SYSTEM, AT LEAST RIGHT AWAY. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN

20 THAT THEIR LIBERAL EDUCATION HAS TO COME TO AN END.

21 SO I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WOULD BE

22 INTERESTING WOULD BE TO FIND WAYS TO THINK ABOUT

23 THIS ISSUE OF LIBERAL EDUCATION IN A MUCH BROADER

24 ECOLOGY OF INSTITUTIONS.

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1 POINTS. THE FIRST IS SOMETHING I'VE BEEN TEMPTED

2 TO SAY SEVERAL TIMES WITH RESISTANCE BECAUSE I KNEW

3 I'D HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK HERE AT THE END; THAT

4 IS, TO EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF DIVERSITY IN

5 AMERICAN HIGHER EDUCATION. IT SEEMS TO ME

6 OCCASIONALLY THERE IS A SENSE THAT WE SHOULD TRY TO

7 FIND A SINGLE SOLUTION TO ALL OF THESE PROBLEMS.

8 IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE PROLIFERATION OF

9 DIFFERENT WAYS OF COPING WITH THESE PROBLEMS IS THE

10 BEST WE CAN DO PRAGMATICALLY SPEAKING. LET A

11 THOUSAND DIFFERENT PROGRAMS BLOOM AND SEE WHAT

12 HAPPENS, SEE WHICH ONES ARE MOST SUCCESSFUL, I

13 THINK THAT'S THE BEST WE CAN DO.

14 IN TERMS OF HOW WE BRIDGE THE GAP WITH OTHER

15 KINDS OF UNIVERSITIES, IT DOES SEEM TO ME THAT

16 WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE FOUNDATION PEOPLE HERE

17 BECAUSE IT DOES SEEM TO ME THAT ONE REQUIRES SEED

18 MONEY TO GET THIS KIND OF THING GOING IN

19 INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE EVEN MORE FINANCIALLY

20 STRAPPED THAN MANY OF THE LIBERAL ARTS COLLEGES

21 THAT ARE REPRESENTED HERE. THAT SORT OF INITIATIVE

22 NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE. IT NEEDS TO HAVE SOME

23 MOMENTUM. AND MOST OF THOSE INSTITUTIONS DON'T

24 FEEL THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES NECESSARY TO DO THAT.

25 HOW DO WE GET OTHER FACULTY INVOLVED? IT

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1 SEEMS TO ME ONE BY ONE. I WOULD SIMPLY UNDERSCORE

2 WHAT ELLEN SAID BOTH ABOUT TRAINING THE NEXT

3 GENERATION OF FACULTY, AND THIS, TOO, IS SOMETHING

4 THAT TAKES TIME AND MONEY AS IT'S DONE AT HARVARD

5 AND STANFORD AND SOME OF THE OTHER WEALTHIER

6 INSTITUTIONS. IT REQUIRES A COMMITMENT OF

7 RESOURCES. THE SAME THING IS TRUE IN MAKING THESE

8 TECHNIQUES OF TEACHING AVAILABLE, ACCESSIBLE TO

9 OTHER MEMBERS OF THE FACULTY.

10 WE HAVE TO REWARD TEACHING. MOST OF OUR

11 INSTITUTIONS, WHETHER LIBERAL ARTS COLLEGES OR

12 RESEARCH UNIVERSITIES, DO NOT PLACE AS MUCH

13 EMPHASIS ON TEACHING AS I THINK WE SHOULD. AND

14 THAT'S NOT INEVITABLE, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN

15 BE CHANGED AND WE HAVE SOME OF THE PEOPLE HERE WHO

16 CAN BEGIN TO APPLY THE LEVERAGE TO MAKE IT CHANGE.

17 FINALLY, IN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION ABOUT

18 CHARACTER AND HOW WE CAN AVOID THE WEIMAR

19 CATASTROPHY IS THAT ONE TEACHES THE WEIMAR

20 CATASTROPHY, AND THAT'S HOW ONE HELPS STUDENTS

21 ENCOUNTER IT AND COME TO UNDERSTAND IT, BUT I WOULD

22 SAY THAT THE RESPONSE TO THAT IS TO TEACH THE MOST

23 RADICAL IDEA I KNOW IN AMERICA, AND THAT IS THE

24 IDEA OF DEMOCRACY.

25 I SIMPLY DISAGREE THAT WE HAVEN'T HEARD

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1 RADICAL IDEAS HERE. I DON'T KNOW OF A MORE RADICAL

2 IDEA THAN THE EGALITARIAN CREED OF DEMOCRACY. IF

3 WE TRANSLATE THAT INTO OUR INDIVIDUAL CLASSES NOT

4 THROUGH NEW PROGRAMS, BUT BY THE WAY WE TEACH IN

5 OUR CLASSROOMS WE COULD DO TO INNOVATE THAT

6 SENSIBILITY THAN THROUGH ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN DO.

7 (Applaud)

8 MR. STANLEY KATZ: I'LL CONCLUDE BY SAYING

9 THAT I THINK JOHN DEWEY WOULD HAVE LIKED THIS

10 SESSION.

11 (Applaud)

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